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NICE lookin truck!! I too am a fan of the white! Nice having some variety in your rides! Do you put a bunch of miles on every year, or just like the change? The 14 F150 is getting a lot of press,,, it is amazing how the 1/2 tons have progressed, my buddy has the Eco boost in his F150,,, has a tow rating of 11,500 on a 5th wheel I think,,,just friggin amazing.
How does the new one ride? Got'er dirty yet?!
How does the new one ride? Got'er dirty yet?!
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It's our running joke, I call his 250 Suzuki (intruder?) the anti-compensator...
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From: Stevens Point, WI
Is a pipe slipped over a torque wrench accurate? A torque wrench is tuned to be pulled on the handle, not have a pipe slipped over which would contact the handle and who know where on the torque wrench shaft.
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From: Stevens Point, WI
haha! I can just hear the guy when driving into work and he sees another 6.0 in the service lot. "SOB!"
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I am not 100% but I think physics would change the amount of torque by adding a pipe for additional leverage. Where is Newton when we need him?
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From: Shelbyville, Indiana
The only way the pipe changes the torque is if it extends below the measurement point of the torque wrench. All the pipe is actually doing is making it easier for the user to reach the desired torque setting.
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From: Stevens Point, WI
Depending on where the pipe contacts the torque wrench. If it contacts the back of the handle and mid way up the torque wrench shaft it wouldn't give an accurate reading.
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cditorque.com
In the torque wrench safety section: "A "cheater bar" should NEVER be used on a torque wrench to apply excess leverage."
Just below the safety section: Use of a "cheater bar" will result in an inaccurate reading and can possibly damage the wrench
In the torque wrench safety section: "A "cheater bar" should NEVER be used on a torque wrench to apply excess leverage."
Just below the safety section: Use of a "cheater bar" will result in an inaccurate reading and can possibly damage the wrench
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From: SE Georgia
That's because it's easy to over torque using a cheater
As long as your socket remains perpendicular to the wrench as it's designed, you can use a 1ft or 100ft cheater bar. Still same amount of torque aplied. The length of the handle just makes the twisting action easier
Now
If you use a crows foot, our some other extension on the head of the torque wrench that changes the effective length...that has a direct change in torque. We torque to 3-5,000 ft-lbs periodically at work using hand wrenches. It takes a 6 ft cheater bar to get there with several big guys
As long as your socket remains perpendicular to the wrench as it's designed, you can use a 1ft or 100ft cheater bar. Still same amount of torque aplied. The length of the handle just makes the twisting action easier
Now
If you use a crows foot, our some other extension on the head of the torque wrench that changes the effective length...that has a direct change in torque. We torque to 3-5,000 ft-lbs periodically at work using hand wrenches. It takes a 6 ft cheater bar to get there with several big guys
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From: Tuttle Oklahoma
NICE lookin truck!! I too am a fan of the white! Nice having some variety in your rides! Do you put a bunch of miles on every year, or just like the change? The 14 F150 is getting a lot of press,,, it is amazing how the 1/2 tons have progressed, my buddy has the Eco boost in his F150,,, has a tow rating of 11,500 on a 5th wheel I think,,,just friggin amazing.
How does the new one ride? Got'er dirty yet?!
How does the new one ride? Got'er dirty yet?!
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From: Central Coast of CA
Yes.
It just makes it easier to achieve the amount of torque desired.
Exactly correct.
Anywhere on the handle won't matter. It will still generate the torque down the handle shaft to the head of the wrench and whatever fastener is being used.
Like Tylus posted, it shouldn't be done because you can easily pass the amount of torque you wanna apply.
The only reason I can see (and this is just a wild *** guess) is because that torque wrench they are using for the example has the torque measured in the center of the wrench. Most torque wrenches we use take the measurement at the head of the wrench, where we attach the socket.
Stewart
cditorque.com
In the torque wrench safety section: "A "cheater bar" should NEVER be used on a torque wrench to apply excess leverage."
In the torque wrench safety section: "A "cheater bar" should NEVER be used on a torque wrench to apply excess leverage."
Just below the safety section: Use of a "cheater bar" will result in an inaccurate reading and can possibly damage the wrench
Stewart