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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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BW1356 from E4OD to C6?

What do I have to do to bolt a bw1356 from an e4od onto a c6? Both are 4x4 already, e4od is behind a 94 351 and the c6 has an no203 on it now and is behind a 360 FE. I know I'll have to change linkages and stuff but I want to know if it will even work. The 203 has an extremely stretched chain and since I have a c6 with a wore out 360 I can use every bit of low range possible. The 203 won't even go into low range any more actually.

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use the C6 adapter on the BW1356 and bolt it to the C6
that is what i have in my 88 diesel. C6 trans and BW1356 t case
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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I don't have one. I also don't have money so I guess I'll just be selling the e4od and 1356. Thanks though

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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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the adapter plate for the E4od should be the same as the one for the C6
check the bolt pattern. i bet it is the same. i used a ZF 5 speed adapter to put the C6 in my truck.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Should be or is the same? That is quite important. I like the 1356 a lot, as it served me well in the f350 but lw range isn't THAT important to me right now.

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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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i have never seen a transfer case adapter with a different bolt pattern. as far as i know, all ford transfer cases have the same bolt pattern, and all 4X4 transmissions have the same bolt pattern on the tailshaft.
 
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I know the 6 bolt pattern to bolt the t-case to the adapter is the same and I know that the 31spline input is common among all ford cases(auto only I think?) but aren't the adapters different lengths? I THINK the 203 and 205 adapters are different lengths and when I googled this swap I saw nothing but people swapping 1356s for 205s and most people said that was bolt on with minor modifications. I can't afford the time to take my 203 off to see if it's the same but the 1356/e4od is siting in the bed of the truck.

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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 12:12 PM
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IIRC you can unbolt the 203 and bolt on the 1356. Shifter linkage and driveshafts may vary.

99+ SD have a different pattern AND different spine count
 
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Forgot to say all cases up to 96/97(obs), thanks for catching that brad. I know the bw is large and I know the 203 is large(and freakin heavy). If I can get a for sure on this I'll go ahead and do it but it I don't then I'm not. I know I'm gonna lose my speedometer but I'm good about not speeding in this truck without looking at it the speedster.

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The fullsized Ford 4x4 transmissions for married transfer cases that I have seen all use the taishaft housing as the adapter.

I have trail fitted NP 208 and NP 205 transfer cases to an M5OD, and a BW 1356 to a C-6, never had a Ford 203 to try.

I have both the short and long tail shaft C6's, both originally had a 205 behind them. The long one is the original transmission in my 77½ F250, the short one came from a 78 or 79 F150 parts truck.

My guess is the hardest part (after removing the 203), will be figuring out how to mount the shifter for the 1356. Driveshaft mods will be needed.

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