Block drain plug advice needed...
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From: Parker, Colorado
Block drain plug advice needed...
Got my Fumoto valves.
Got enough ELC.
Ready to do the deed and the block plugs won't budge. I've tried 8mm and 5/16 in every Allen headed tool I have with no luck....Zero, zilch, nada.
Plan B is a left-hand drill bit in the proper size (which is ?).
Suggestions? Advice? C4?
TIA.
Got enough ELC.
Ready to do the deed and the block plugs won't budge. I've tried 8mm and 5/16 in every Allen headed tool I have with no luck....Zero, zilch, nada.
Plan B is a left-hand drill bit in the proper size (which is ?).
Suggestions? Advice? C4?
TIA.
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Try spraying with PB Blaster several times, let sit for several days. Mine were really stuck, might try heat gun on drivers side. They finally came out after soaking for a few days with PB Blaster. Passenger side is toughest, needed to unbolt starter on passenger side, remove the wheel well. Don't push it too much. IIRC I used a cheater pipe on the ratchet on the drivers side, it really pops when it finally breaks loose. Good luck.
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I'm worried about rounding the inside and having to drill them out - just my luck.
PB Blaster sounds like a good idea....I'll try it. Of course, it didn't work too good on the bed bolts....
PB Blaster sounds like a good idea....I'll try it. Of course, it didn't work too good on the bed bolts....
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From: Spanaway
After you spray and let it soak. Take the right size allen socket
and give it a light rap with the impact wrench. and I do mean
LIGHT. Don't sit and hammer at it.
If you know someone that has one of these
Buy Aircraft Tool Supply AT540A 10" Screw Knocker & Nut Buster at SkyGeek.com
or
Short Screw Extractor/Screw Knocker/Old Man 4"
Last
ATS SCREW & BOLT REMOVER (10) from Aircraft Tool Supply
Also called a "Screw Knocker", "Woodpecker", or "Nut Buster", this tool is used to remove screws, bolts, nuts, etc. that are corroded or cannot be loosened by conventional methods. Fits all rivet guns with a .401 Parker Taper shank. Accepts 3/8" square drive sockets and tooling. Drop forged from tool grade steel and hardened to 45 Rockwell. See p/n AT54K for optional 1/4" adapter and drive bits. 10" long. 2 lbs (1Kg) shipping weight.
This tool is more along the line of the hand operated impact driver. It used a .401
pneumatic rivet gun to provide the hammer force.
There is some info here. >> Can someone explain how a "bolt knocker" works??? [Archive] - The Garage Journal Board
Sean
and give it a light rap with the impact wrench. and I do mean
LIGHT. Don't sit and hammer at it.
If you know someone that has one of these
Buy Aircraft Tool Supply AT540A 10" Screw Knocker & Nut Buster at SkyGeek.com
or
Short Screw Extractor/Screw Knocker/Old Man 4"
Last
ATS SCREW & BOLT REMOVER (10) from Aircraft Tool Supply
Also called a "Screw Knocker", "Woodpecker", or "Nut Buster", this tool is used to remove screws, bolts, nuts, etc. that are corroded or cannot be loosened by conventional methods. Fits all rivet guns with a .401 Parker Taper shank. Accepts 3/8" square drive sockets and tooling. Drop forged from tool grade steel and hardened to 45 Rockwell. See p/n AT54K for optional 1/4" adapter and drive bits. 10" long. 2 lbs (1Kg) shipping weight.
This tool is more along the line of the hand operated impact driver. It used a .401
pneumatic rivet gun to provide the hammer force.
There is some info here. >> Can someone explain how a "bolt knocker" works??? [Archive] - The Garage Journal Board
Sean
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After you spray and let it soak. Take the right size allen socket
and give it a light rap with the impact wrench. and I do mean
LIGHT. Don't sit and hammer at it.
If you know someone that has one of these
Buy Aircraft Tool Supply AT540A 10" Screw Knocker & Nut Buster at SkyGeek.com
or
Short Screw Extractor/Screw Knocker/Old Man 4"
Last
ATS SCREW & BOLT REMOVER (10) from Aircraft Tool Supply
Also called a "Screw Knocker", "Woodpecker", or "Nut Buster", this tool is used to remove screws, bolts, nuts, etc. that are corroded or cannot be loosened by conventional methods. Fits all rivet guns with a .401 Parker Taper shank. Accepts 3/8" square drive sockets and tooling. Drop forged from tool grade steel and hardened to 45 Rockwell. See p/n AT54K for optional 1/4" adapter and drive bits. 10" long. 2 lbs (1Kg) shipping weight.
This tool is more along the line of the hand operated impact driver. It used a .401
pneumatic rivet gun to provide the hammer force.
There is some info here. >> Can someone explain how a "bolt knocker" works??? [Archive] - The Garage Journal Board
Sean
and give it a light rap with the impact wrench. and I do mean
LIGHT. Don't sit and hammer at it.
If you know someone that has one of these
Buy Aircraft Tool Supply AT540A 10" Screw Knocker & Nut Buster at SkyGeek.com
or
Short Screw Extractor/Screw Knocker/Old Man 4"
Last
ATS SCREW & BOLT REMOVER (10) from Aircraft Tool Supply
Also called a "Screw Knocker", "Woodpecker", or "Nut Buster", this tool is used to remove screws, bolts, nuts, etc. that are corroded or cannot be loosened by conventional methods. Fits all rivet guns with a .401 Parker Taper shank. Accepts 3/8" square drive sockets and tooling. Drop forged from tool grade steel and hardened to 45 Rockwell. See p/n AT54K for optional 1/4" adapter and drive bits. 10" long. 2 lbs (1Kg) shipping weight.
This tool is more along the line of the hand operated impact driver. It used a .401
pneumatic rivet gun to provide the hammer force.
There is some info here. >> Can someone explain how a "bolt knocker" works??? [Archive] - The Garage Journal Board
Sean
WAY to big for my little rivet gun - which pulls rivets, not pounds them.
Thanks, Sean!
Benny's idea is more in line with my tools and abilities....
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Benny's recommendation to use an impact gun is the way to go. It worked for me. I couldn't move that thing no matter how hard I swung on it ... even with a large bar on it.
Hours and hours of time and sweat and cursing spent messing with it because I was afraid to put an impact to it. Finally I had enough and the impact had it done on one burp ... maybe 1/2 of 1 second. A few hours of my life I won't get back but I did gain some experience and learned a life-lesson
Hours and hours of time and sweat and cursing spent messing with it because I was afraid to put an impact to it. Finally I had enough and the impact had it done on one burp ... maybe 1/2 of 1 second. A few hours of my life I won't get back but I did gain some experience and learned a life-lesson
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From: Spanaway
Check out the hand operated impact driver.
You will need some space to use a hammer.
The Screw Knocker can be used with an air
chisel if the shank size is right .401 Most are.
Just dial back the air.
The way that an air chisel differs from a rivet gun
is the precision of the controls that i about all.
The other way to make a quickie one would take a
cheap ratchet handle and as your putting the twisting
force on the bit rap on it with a hammer.
Sean
You will need some space to use a hammer.
The Screw Knocker can be used with an air
chisel if the shank size is right .401 Most are.
Just dial back the air.
The way that an air chisel differs from a rivet gun
is the precision of the controls that i about all.
The other way to make a quickie one would take a
cheap ratchet handle and as your putting the twisting
force on the bit rap on it with a hammer.
Sean
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Northern tool has a nice 24" breaker bar that comes in 1/2" or 3/8 in. I used it with an 8mm allen socket to break them. Used PB blaster 30minute before even trying. On the passenger side, get the starter out of the way so you can get some leverage on it.
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I second the motion for getting the engine up to temp, then trying to break them loose. However be careful if you decide to drain with hot coolant, the stuff comes out in a hurry and will give you a thorough shower if you're careful.
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UPDATE 11-30
WOW!!! What an ordeal!
The little suckers could not withstand the judicious application of an air chisel - absolutely nothing else worked.
Tomorrow I'll try to put the starter back on....that top bolt is hard to get to, for some reason. I had to remove the RF wheel, plus the inner fender splash shield to even be able to see what I was doing.
I used the Fumoto valves with a nipple that sticks straight out -108-N, I believe.
It sure looks like it will hit the starter - does it???
Definitely going to add some 3/8 hose and a clamp before the starter goes back on. If the starter ever quits someone else will have to fix it.
Miller time.
The little suckers could not withstand the judicious application of an air chisel - absolutely nothing else worked.
Tomorrow I'll try to put the starter back on....that top bolt is hard to get to, for some reason. I had to remove the RF wheel, plus the inner fender splash shield to even be able to see what I was doing.
I used the Fumoto valves with a nipple that sticks straight out -108-N, I believe.
It sure looks like it will hit the starter - does it???
Definitely going to add some 3/8 hose and a clamp before the starter goes back on. If the starter ever quits someone else will have to fix it.
Miller time.