Checking Cold Start FICM Voltage w/ AE
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Checking Cold Start FICM Voltage w/ AE
What's the best way to do this?
By the time I turn the key to the glow position and get AE connected with FICM Voltage on the screen, the glow plugs and HFCM have stopped running.
By the time I turn the key to the glow position and get AE connected with FICM Voltage on the screen, the glow plugs and HFCM have stopped running.
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That doesn't work because there's a popup window telling me to make sure the ignition is on. That popup window "blocks" me from setting one of the live data windows to FICM voltage until after the key is turned on. Then when I turn the key on, the FICM begins to cycle long before I can get one of the live data windows set to FICM voltage.
Did I explain that clearly enough, or am I still being too unclear.
Happy Thanksgiving, BTW!
Did I explain that clearly enough, or am I still being too unclear.
Happy Thanksgiving, BTW!
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That doesn't work because there's a popup window telling me to make sure the ignition is on. That popup window "blocks" me from setting one of the live data windows to FICM voltage until after the key is turned on. Then when I turn the key on, the FICM begins to cycle long before I can get one of the live data windows set to FICM voltage.
Did I explain that clearly enough, or am I still being to unclear.
Happy Thanksgiving, BTW!
Did I explain that clearly enough, or am I still being to unclear.
Happy Thanksgiving, BTW!
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Good thought. I'll give it a go. Thanks!
In case that doesn't work, are there any other ideas or thoughts on whether or not monitoring that very first FICM cycle on a cold start is even that important?
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Why would you have more than one FICM cycle on a cold start. Turn the key on, wait for the light to go out, start the engine. Unless you mean something different about a FICM cycle.
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I know you can do it on an Edge Insight CTS.
Touch the screen to bring it to life. As it boots up put the key in the ignition and don't do anything yet. The text along the bottom will start telling you what it's doing as it boots up. When it gets to "Trying Ford CAN's" then I turn the key to the on position. Shortly after, the Edge then starts to display the values for KO/EO.
When you are ready you can crank the engine. The monitor does not shut off and you can watch Battery Volts, FICM Sync, FICM Volts, ICP Volts, ICP Pressure, IPR %, Injector Pulse Width and Main Injector Power in real time as the engine cranks.
I have an AE too so I will be curious to see if folks have figured out how to do what you are asking.
Touch the screen to bring it to life. As it boots up put the key in the ignition and don't do anything yet. The text along the bottom will start telling you what it's doing as it boots up. When it gets to "Trying Ford CAN's" then I turn the key to the on position. Shortly after, the Edge then starts to display the values for KO/EO.
When you are ready you can crank the engine. The monitor does not shut off and you can watch Battery Volts, FICM Sync, FICM Volts, ICP Volts, ICP Pressure, IPR %, Injector Pulse Width and Main Injector Power in real time as the engine cranks.
I have an AE too so I will be curious to see if folks have figured out how to do what you are asking.
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I would say you can't get that with an ODBII reader. The computer has to read the voltage, and the reader has to sync with the computer, ask for the data then read the data then display it. SGII can be turned on before the engine and it takes a second or two to sync and start to display data, but definitely displays FICM voltage before the glow plug light goes out to tell you to start the engine. Mind you, it takes a long time for the glow plugs to actually turn off, like 2 minutes on a cold start, so if the reader takes that long, that's a long time indeed.
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Yep. Edge Insight will do that.
His signature says he has an Edge Insight so that would be his easiest way to get what he wants.
His signature says he has an Edge Insight so that would be his easiest way to get what he wants.
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My Insight is the old version and cannot read FICM voltage.
Thanks for the reminder, Josh. I might just have to do it the "old fashioned way".
Thanks for the reminder, Josh. I might just have to do it the "old fashioned way".
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Oops. Couldn't tell that from the sig. Can you send it to Edge and have them do any programming updates? They repaired the chip in my Dodge when it went south and got it back quickly.
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