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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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You may win a judgement but it doesn't mean you'll collect.
Agreed, but it's the only solution. It would be easier to collect from an establishment than a private party.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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And at this point in time you are handling it exactly how a rational person would handle it. Keep calm and plot your next move wisely...
But he is already considering giving up.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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It's not necessary for a rear end. Are you doubting me now? Nothing is accomplished by running it on the rack so yes maybe they are all nuts.

Yep, I'm just a crazy fool I suppose.

Nope, no money back, and unless you want to come down here and beat it out of him yourself, it ain't gonna happen.... he is DEAD sure that the driveshaft vibration CAUSED the pinion bearing to go bad (within 2 miles of driving).... no... he's not sure of it... he's full of it... and he knows it. He thinks he is smarter than the average bear. ( that means you and me)
Well, they did try to get out of it right from the start, and the vibration can't affect any bearing in the rear end.
Again.. yep, I just love that I emptied my wallet and have gears that whine.

Didn't forget about small claims court... if you had read what I wrote about not doing anything right this minute then you would not have asked.... and if you think for one minute that YOU are disappointed...... just wow Brent....
Yea I am disappointed because you are mentioning giving up and biting the bullet with the dealer

Here's what you didn't get from me in the first post. Maybe it's what you need to hear?

I'm mad as hell. First thought was to go back and choke-slam his skinny little *** into his own gravel driveway.... been there and done that....
You seem to suggest that maybe I'm some kind of "mewling little kitten" that can't take care of himself. You don't have the first clue as to who I am.

I am handling this in a manner that is best for my family. I cannot believe your reply...[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]You can't believe my reply? I just can't figure out why you never mention court which is your only way out but you do mention giving up and going to the dealer. I will think you are a mewing little kitten if you give up.
Did I mention I hate garages?
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
But he is already considering giving up.
Just because he pays someone to "fix his truck right" whether it be Ford or a shop that is truly an expert in gear setup and really knows what they are doing, doesn't mean he's giving up on getting his money back from this shop. He can still take them to court and maybe recover what he paid them, and maybe damages. But if it were me I would concentrate on getting my truck fixed and hell would freeze over before I let that guy touch it again. So IMHO he's doing the best he can now, go get it fixed right, then take the guy to court and recover some if not all of his loss.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 05:20 AM
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IDK if you saw what I said earlier, but I'm serious. Put some Lucus oil stabalizer in there and see how it sounds. The stuff blends with any kind of oil.

https://www.lucasoil.com/products/di...l%20Stabilizer


It's between $10-14 a bottle depending where you get it. Grab a suction gun, and pull some oil out of the full plug, and put a qt of the stabalizer in.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sammie0126
Just because he pays someone to "fix his truck right" whether it be Ford or a shop that is truly an expert in gear setup and really knows what they are doing, doesn't mean he's giving up on getting his money back from this shop. He can still take them to court and maybe recover what he paid them, and maybe damages. But if it were me I would concentrate on getting my truck fixed and hell would freeze over before I let that guy touch it again. So IMHO he's doing the best he can now, go get it fixed right, then take the guy to court and recover some if not all of his loss.
Thank you Christina. Gonna get another person's view on it and arm myself with as much ammo as possible and then demand my money back. In person and in registered letter... will get an affidavit from the new mechanic stating what he found when he tore it apart again...being a retired LEO I know very well how to get my ducks in a row before entering a court of law. If you don't have every base covered, you look like an idiot (think Judge Judy people).

Besides, if I went down there and demanded my money back now, without it being fixed properly, I will be so mad from driving it noisy and thinking about his face when he lied to me that it will go badly.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by hav24wheel
IDK if you saw what I said earlier, but I'm serious. Put some Lucus oil stabalizer in there and see how it sounds. The stuff blends with any kind of oil.

https://www.lucasoil.com/products/di...l%20Stabilizer


It's between $10-14 a bottle depending where you get it. Grab a suction gun, and pull some oil out of the full plug, and put a qt of the stabalizer in.
I saw your post, and thank you for the suggestion. I have never heard of Lucas working to quiet differentials. I have seen how "climbing oil" can foam up in a differential and cause bearings to become lubricated LESS than they should be. Kind of makes me nervous I suppose. Do you have personal experience with it? Just asking because I'm open trying about anything until I can get it into Ford.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:10 AM
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Ya, I've used it in engines and noisy manual tranys. Quieted down the trans 100%. And that thing was noisy as hell. It's some thick stuff. Comes out of the bottle like honey. I always drop the bottle in a sink of hot water for a wile before I pour it.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sammie0126
Just because he pays someone to "fix his truck right" whether it be Ford or a shop that is truly an expert in gear setup and really knows what they are doing, doesn't mean he's giving up on getting his money back from this shop. He can still take them to court and maybe recover what he paid them, and maybe damages. But if it were me I would concentrate on getting my truck fixed and hell would freeze over before I let that guy touch it again. So IMHO he's doing the best he can now, go get it fixed right, then take the guy to court and recover some if not all of his loss.
Since he has a driveable truck and time on his hands he could go back one more time and cause a big fuss or just go to small claims and order them to fix it right or get the money back and if it's money back he could then go to another shop and get it done for a third of the dealer. That was a rare case, running to the dealer to throw tons of money at the problem is not the answer. Also, nobody would let them touch it again and that's what they want, but I would let them fix it before I let them off the hook. The dealer could say "oh that whine is normal" too and then you would be back in small claims fighting the dealer's fancy witnesses and now you are thousands in the hole. He is bowing out too soon.
I think what happened was the garage just assumed his supplier was going to give them some new gears but they didn't so it was back to burning the customer again.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:54 AM
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Everyone is right to some extent. If the OP is going to fight this, it needs to happen sooner than later, keep the pressure on. I like "court" as a last ditch effort. For me, things like the BBB, the local news channel, the local paper, social media, there are lots of ways to hit a small business where it hurts these days. The whole thing would make a great story on the local evening news. Lots of threats and actions like that and this guy might cave in and realize you are serious. If not, court.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by EXv10
Since he has a driveable truck and time on his hands he could go back one more time and cause a big fuss or just go to small claims and order to fix it right or get the money back and if it's money back he could then go to another shop and get it done for a third of the dealer. That was a rare case, running to the dealer to throw tons of money at the problem is not the answer. Also, nobody would let them touch it again and that's what they want, but I would let them fix it before I let them off the hook. The dealer could say "oh that whine is normal" too and then you would be back in small claims fighting the dealer's fancy witnesses.
I think what happened was the garage just assumed his supplier was going to give them some new gears but they didn't so it was back to burning the customer again.
Making a fuss won't do anything at this guys' place.
I don't want him touching my Ex again.
I cannot wait for the small claims process in this county to play out before fixing this issue. (6 mos to a year)
Dealer here won't say that whine is normal...
Around here, you will pay the same amount at small shop as you will pay the dealer. (approx. 900 - 1000 for new gears and labor)
Ford now has 2-years and unlimited miles warranty on parts and labor. NO ONE else around here will give more than 12K miles warranty... and then only on parts.

You are still talking like I'm "letting this guy off the hook" and "running" to the dealer like an idiot. What is up with that?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Thank you Christina. Gonna get another person's view on it and arm myself with as much ammo as possible and then demand my money back. In person and in registered letter... will get an affidavit from the new mechanic stating what he found when he tore it apart again...being a retired LEO I know very well how to get my ducks in a row before entering a court of law. If you don't have every base covered, you look like an idiot (think Judge Judy people).

Besides, if I went down there and demanded my money back now, without it being fixed properly, I will be so mad from driving it noisy and thinking about his face when he lied to me that it will go badly.
That's smart and you wouldn't want it to escalate it into the whole shop circling around you and ready to jump in like my experiences. But I would stay away from the dealer.............I've battled them too.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DSN46
Making a fuss won't do anything at this guys' place.
I don't want him touching my Ex again.
I cannot wait for the small claims process in this county to play out before fixing this issue. (6 mos to a year)
Dealer here won't say that whine is normal...
Around here, you will pay the same amount at small shop as you will pay the dealer. (approx. 900 - 1000 for new gears and labor)
Ford now has 2-years and unlimited miles warranty on parts and labor. NO ONE else around here will give more than 12K miles warranty... and then only on parts.

You are still talking like I'm "letting this guy off the hook" and "running" to the dealer like an idiot. What is up with that?
Brent will never get it, you are doing the right thing by getting it done right and dealing with the Hillbilly in due time. I for one would not let someone who couldn't tell the truth if there live depended on it touch my truck for a 3rd time.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DSN46
Making a fuss won't do anything at this guys' place.
I don't want him touching my Ex again.
I cannot wait for the small claims process in this county to play out before fixing this issue. (6 mos to a year)
Dealer here won't say that whine is normal...
Around here, you will pay the same amount at small shop as you will pay the dealer. (approx. 900 - 1000 for new gears and labor)
Ford now has 2-years and unlimited miles warranty on parts and labor. NO ONE else around here will give more than 12K miles warranty... and then only on parts.

You are still talking like I'm "letting this guy off the hook" and "running" to the dealer like an idiot. What is up with that?
OK, maybe the dealer is the best solution there, but don't count on them to have the same idea of what a whine is, I have battled them too. I never said you were an idiot and why can't you get the gears you want at the dealer? Why go there if you can't get what you want? Also; you might do better in court with the problem still there. I would never go to the dealer and get OEM gears put in but that's just me..........ouch!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Brent will never get it, you are doing the right thing by getting it done right and dealing with the Hillbilly in due time. I for one would not let someone who couldn't tell the truth if there live depended on it touch my truck for a 3rd time.
Come on, did you think I never took anything to a shop?
 

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