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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 02:16 PM
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As I recall, the instructions on the bottle say to mix the AR9100 with some of the motor oil you are adding at oil change time. So if you want to do it per instructions, you could drain some oil out, mix in the Archoil, and refill it into the engine.

But I'm not that paranoid. I just pour it in the engine in between gallon bottles of oil. I figure it will mix well enough. Now in this case, you're not doing an oil change, so I would simply leave the engine running and pour it very slowly into the engine. Very slowly meaning a minute or so to pour the 16oz. The oil is always sloshing around in the pan anyway, and it will mix well enough. Better to do that than to just pour the whole thing in a cold shutdown engine, which would have the AR just running down a head drain into one corner of the pan.

There is no need to make a science project out of this, and I don't think it is going to make much difference how you do it. But I would prefer my LPOP not pick up a big gulp of straight AR if I can easily avoid it.

If you're one of us smart guys that have a Fumoto valve, it is easy to drain out a quart of oil, mix the AR in, and refill. If you're not one of us smart guys, get yourself an edjumacation ASAP.

By the way, you don't have to wait for an oil change to install your spanky new Fumoto. Some folks put a shop vac on their oil fill opening, and then remove the pan plug and install the Fumoto. Reportedly the suction keeps all the oil in the pan and off your white wife beater T shirt.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Really Sean you have seen and heard the difference I've tried 4 different fuel/ not oil additives can't say the where snake oil but didn't get any difference on a 500 mile trip
milage wise , 4 weeks in a row but wow this vid looked awesome!
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by amdriven2liv
I've always wondered if that was a true next day cold start on that engine versus just changing the oil and restarting it claiming the Archoil did this marvelous job of curing stiction.

I know many have used and claim the benefits of Archoil, especially over Rev-X, but that Youtube video has always seemed sketchy to me.

Josh
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
I've always wondered if that was a true next day cold start on that engine versus just changing the oil and restarting it claiming the Archoil did this marvelous job of curing stiction.

I know many have used and claim the benefits of Archoil, especially over Rev-X, but that Youtube video has always seemed sketchy to me.

Josh
Here is the same guy the year before doing Rev-X:

 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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My experience is...

Archoil AR9100 and Rev-X do exactly the same thing. But AR9100 does it at less than half the cost. Neither one permanently fixes anything, so you have to use it continuously. That gets pretty expensive with Rev-X.

Cold mountain morning starts are much cleaner with the AR9100. I live at sea level on the west coast, so day to day cold starts are never an issue for me. But we like to camp at high elevation in the Sierras, and the difference with the AR9100 is obvious at 7,500' on frosty mornings.

I got nearly the same cold weather performance from using Rotella T6 5w/40 synthetic. But I have switched back to Rotella 15w/40, with the AR9100 additive. The net cost of an oil change is about the same, but I prefer towing with the 15W and the oil holds up better against shearing. The T6 is in pretty bad shape after towing 5k miles. I was either going to change to 3k OCI, or go with the 15W + AR9100.

I saw no change in mileage. I'm skeptical of any mileage improvement claims.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Thanks Bill for being up front I to am very very skeptical of ANY INCREASE YOUR MILAGE LUBS.... Not to say there out their but any way it takes a tank of cerosine round trip from springfield mo to St. Louis and back last fall I tried a different product each tank load No difference ..and it didn't help my cold starts , which in products defense it went into the fuel not the oil , which of
Coarse we all now has more to do with the injectors ESP during cold start ups
So I am going to start my own test procedures and see if adding any thing to the oil will make a difference...
Ie since my new ipr,ficm,repacement it has started very smoothly until the last couple of days when Missouri temps have dipped close to low 30 she hick upped once maybe twice and smoothed out right away again much better but just like the first start off the show room floor well no, maybe my exactations are to much
But am haveing fun and I garrentee one thing I will find out, starting with the cheapest and available lucus synthetic stabilizer meet the rep and promised dont likey bring backie so I win or its free,,, next up archoil ,,,them rev x,,,
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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I have used Archoil the last 2 oil changes. The first time I put it in I was having some cold start problems. I had just changed my oil 500 miles before I found out about Archoil so I just added it to my truck (cold, not running). I started it up drove around for a bit and parked it overnight. The next morning I started it up and could tell a difference right away. No bucking and a lot less noise from the engine. I will continue to use it in the oil. I also Archoil in the fuel but didn’t notice a difference. I have started adding it every other fill up and haven’t been able to tell a difference. As a side note about 2000 miles after I used it in the oil for the first time my truck started smoking. Turns out it was oil leaking from the turbo into the exhaust. I rebuilt the turbo and put about 4000 miles on and now it is doing it again. I haven’t heard of anyone else having this problem so it may just be a coincidence it happened right after I added it the first time and then I didn’t rebuild the turbo correctly.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Most if not all the problems from out injectors come from the oil side not
the fuel side. So adding it to the fuel may not show any thing at all.
Remember that we are not using fuel under extreme high pressures.
It the oil that is at 3,000 PSI.

Sean
 
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Got the Archoil tonight. Sorry no pics of the oil levels, camera couldn't get a decent pic of the level. I added it to a running engine, the engine was hot as I just got home from work. I added it over about 5 minutes instead of just pouring it all in. I let the truck run and then ran it at high idle for about 5 minutes. I didn't hear any changes nor did I expect any right away. I took the truck out later for a short drive. Still sounded the same, then it got quiet and the sound I was used to was back. The real test is in the morning with a cold start, although I do have it plugged in for some help in the morning.

Archoil does work. I wouldn't expect any help with the MPG. It's very worthwhile investment for your injectors.

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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Ok, So I am thinking of giving it a try.
BUT I can't find anyone near me that sells it and I really
don't want to have to get it shipped.
So do places that are not listed on the dealer list sell if
and who should I be looking at?

Sean
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Ok, So I am thinking of giving it a try.
BUT I can't find anyone near me that sells it and I really
don't want to have to get it shipped.
So do places that are not listed on the dealer list sell if
and who should I be looking at?

Sean
Try Harry at ARCHOIL PRODUCTS SPOKANE - HOME

Harry is usually on Dieselgarage and is very helpful with our trucks. He was on dieselgarage long before archoil came along.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Ok, So I am thinking of giving it a try.
BUT I can't find anyone near me that sells it and I really
don't want to have to get it shipped.
So do places that are not listed on the dealer list sell if
and who should I be looking at?

Sean
I gave up trying to find it locally and just ordered it through Amazon. Got it in a few days. No problems shipping it.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 05:09 AM
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Wasn't as cold as I expected this morning, 35 degrees. Started it up and it was wonderful. It didn't sound like a bunch of rocks in a dryer. I gave it a few minutes to warm up and then headed out. For a change I didn't have to crawl out of the neighborhood. Usually the truck is like a slug until things get warm and moving. Not now. Archoil made a difference. Even in the 30 min drive to work I could hear and feel the difference. I guess I made her a Archoil junkie!

Either that or I'm headed to needing new injectors and that isn't happening.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Most if not all the problems from out injectors come from the oil side not
the fuel side. So adding it to the fuel may not show any thing at all.
Remember that we are not using fuel under extreme high pressures.
It the oil that is at 3,000 PSI.

Sean
The way I understand it the injector multiplies the oil pressure 7x. The fuel is under 7x more pressure then the oil. So when you are seeing 3000psi ICP this is 21,000psi out of the tip of the injector and into the combustion chamber.

I also believe this constitutes to the smell. I smell older diesel engines and compared to a 6.0l. There is difference, which I am thinking is because of the injection pressure. This is just a guess though, I have no data to back this up.

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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 11:06 AM
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The way I understand it the injector multiplies the oil pressure 7x. The fuel is under 7x more pressure then the oil. So when you are seeing 3000psi ICP this is 21,000psi out of the tip of the injector and into the combustion chamber.

I also believe this constitutes to the smell. I smell older diesel engines and compared to a 6.0l. There is difference, which I am thinking is because of the injection pressure. This is just a guess though, I have no data to back this up.

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you should NEVER sniff another man's tail pipe! just sayin...

i bought some archoil last year to try however because i live up in canaduh it took a little longer to get to my door so i shelfed it. gonna add it to my next oil change now that the temps are starting to drop.
 
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