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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:41 PM
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Hey guys. I'm hoping this isn't the beginning of the end for my truck. Has anyone had the problem of plugging in the engine block heater and the truck won't start the next morning? It got pretty cold last night and I plugged my truck in this morning for a couple of hours and when i went out to start the truck, the battery had died. I am using the same extension cord I have used in the past, same outlet, same everything. I'm glad I tried to start the truck before my wife left for work so I was able to jump start it. Drove to work and shut it down. It started right up when I was leaving for lunch and all times since. I'm not sure if I should plug it in overnight. Thanks guys.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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Maybe the block heater quit working? Check to make sure you have power on your ext cord. (plug something in it like a fan, hair dryer or something) Are you able to see water temp via a scantool prior to starting?

Edit....I missed the part about your batteries being dead. Were they dead when you tried to start, or they died after trying to start?
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wallace32
Hey guys. I'm hoping this isn't the beginning of the end for my truck. Has anyone had the problem of plugging in the engine block heater and the truck won't start the next morning? It got pretty cold last night and I plugged my truck in this morning for a couple of hours and when i went out to start the truck, the battery had died. I am using the same extension cord I have used in the past, same outlet, same everything. I'm glad I tried to start the truck before my wife left for work so I was able to jump start it. Drove to work and shut it down. It started right up when I was leaving for lunch and all times since. I'm not sure if I should plug it in overnight. Thanks guys.
What type of power cord? The weather could have affected it and is causing a short. That is a simple and probable explanation. Try putting it on a timer as well. I believe the power cord is a 2102 as well. Get a new cord first. Before you worry. Maybe heating element as well. It's eletrical. Start with power cord and wor from your plug in from the house. All the way to block. New cord probably will fix it
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Also it really is unnecessary to plug in unless it's frigid. If your glow plug module and plugs are working correctly, your fine. Hell if cycle the twice to make you feel better. Then let her run for a couple minutes after. I do plug mine im 40 and below just for in a big old baby about my truck
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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The block heater is a stand alone unit and would not have any effect on your batteries. I am an electrician in my day job. Just make sure you are using a grounded 12 gauge extension cord no longer than necessary.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:03 PM
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Your block heater could be bad and maybe your GPR is bad on your truck.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 78fordman
The block heater is a stand alone unit and would not have any effect on your batteries. I am an electrician in my day job. Just make sure you are using a grounded 12 gauge extension cord no longer than necessary.

Agreed^^^^


SOunds like you have Bad Batterys
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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I never plug in... Northern Colorado.

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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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The batteries were replaced either last year or the year before. The cord is a 50 ft. It's orange and mid-sized with a ground, guessing it's a 12 gauge. I used this same cord all of last winter. Last night and thru the weekend we are looking at freezing(32-35) overnight and in the upper 50's to low 60's during the day, so I figured I'd better plug in. Don't have a scan tool currently. It was also only plugged in for about 2 hours. I am not going to plug in tonight and see if she starts up in the morning. Then I can plug in tomorrow night, since I don't have work in Saturday, and see what happens.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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The heater element has nothing to do with the batteries on the truck.

Every once in a while my block heater will trip the GFCI outlet. Check it before you go buy a new cord.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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Sounds to me like a bad battery cable connection. Check for corrosion loose cables esp on the passenger side cable where they split to the drivers side battery. When I first got my truck it did some weird battery things. I found right where the cable splits was breaking apart. I cleaned up all terminals needed batteries so bought two new. And some I think they were 4awg eyelets and repaired the cable, I've had no problems since.
 
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Sounds to me like a bad battery cable connection. Check for corrosion loose cables esp on the passenger side cable where they split to the drivers side battery. When I first got my truck it did some weird battery things. I found right where the cable splits was breaking apart. I cleaned up all terminals needed batteries so bought two new. And some I think they were 4awg eyelets and repaired the cable, I've had no problems since.

Some good things to Check^^^^


The Heater has nothing to do with Dead Batterys

Im like Josh I don't plug in much Only when maybe the 20s or less at night
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 02:15 AM
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Lets see .
Batteries,alternator or cables take you pick.
Like everyone has already said the heater has nothing
to do with the truck not starting.
 
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Originally Posted by wallace32
The batteries were replaced either last year or the year before. The cord is a 50 ft. It's orange and mid-sized with a ground, guessing it's a 12 gauge. I used this same cord all of last winter. Last night and thru the weekend we are looking at freezing(32-35) overnight and in the upper 50's to low 60's during the day, so I figured I'd better plug in. Don't have a scan tool currently. It was also only plugged in for about 2 hours. I am not going to plug in tonight and see if she starts up in the morning. Then I can plug in tomorrow night, since I don't have work in Saturday, and see what happens.
If temp is only going into the 30's, me thinks you are just feeding your electric company......
 
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Old Oct 18, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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5W40 instead of 15W40 makes a bigger difference than running a heating element in the coolant.
 
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