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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 06:57 AM
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Hi Folks, I'm new here on FTE, I read alot of the threads so I decided to join and ask advice from all, on my 1958 Ford F250 292 Y Block 4.8L. I Purchased this truck Back in March and I have done a Ton Of Work to it and I Love my Truck. Recently I noticed oil coming out of my oil breather and I've been asking around to see what it is and I'm being told I need to have a PCV VALVE installed. Question #1 Does anyone have advice on how to install that on a 292 Y Block? or is it something else ?? I looked all around the engine and I don't see one nor do I see a Blow tube, appears it has been removed. Another Question #2 My Truck has a DANA 60 differential on it and I just replaced the pinion seal with my mechanic because it was leaking, I drove it the other day for about 50 miles and I parked it at home and when I checked it I saw that it was still leaking. Does anyone have any advice on anything else I need to change to get it to stop leaking? I appreciate anyones advice that could help me steered in the right direction. Thanks!!!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1958 Ford F250
Hi Folks, I'm new here on FTE, I read alot of the threads so I decided to join and ask advice from all, on my 1958 Ford F250 292 Y Block.

I Purchased this truck Back in March and I have done a Ton Of Work to it and I Love my Truck.

Recently I noticed oil coming out of my oil breather and I've been asking around to see what it is and I'm being told I need to have a PCV VALVE installed.
PCV was introduced in 1961, no vehicle prior came with it.

I looked all around the engine and I don't see a Blow (road draft) tube, appears it has been removed.
1957/59: Located on left (drivers) side of engine block.

My Truck has a DANA 60 differential on it and I just replaced the pinion seal with my mechanic because it was leaking, I drove it the other day for about 50 miles and I parked it at home and when I checked it I saw that it was still leaking.
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Most likely, the pinion seal was not installed properly.

Left (upper - pic above): Exploded view of road draft tube and its internal parts. 6A631 is B2TZ-6A631-A .. Crankcase Ventilation Screen. It probably hasn't been changed in years.

When it gets clogged up, pressure builds up inside the engine, oil begins blowing out.

Notice that the pic below the tube is the 1961/63 292 PCV system. 6A666 is the PCV valve.
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Right (lower pic): Road draft tube (6758) visible on side of block.

6737 is the canister that the partial flow paper cartridge oil filter fits into. Filter called a 'sock' because it's wrapped in white gauze.

Some trucks came with it, some came with the full flow "Spin-On" oil filter. A kit was available at Ford parts counters to install the Spin-On filter in place of the messy to change sock filter.

Kit was also available from NAPA and it still is today. The current Ford part number for the filter is: Motorcraft FL-1A

Left (lower) pic: Cartridge 'Sock' Filter & Spin-On Oil Filter.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Could we see some pictures? Here is how.


But I got ta say becoming a supporter is the fastest and easiest way to post pics right from
your whatever pad/cell thing or home computer.
Few of us look in the users Gallery or album as you can see by your recent visitors.


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Welcome to FTE, Best Damn Forum EVER!
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Here's How to Post Pictures:
1. Login to FTE.
2.Click User CP (In the Top Left Hand Corner)
3.(On the Left, There will be a list, The 5th Option Down, will say "Pictures & Albums) Click That.
4.Then, Click Add Album, Enter a title, and description, if ya want to.
5. Click Upload Pictures, Then click Browse, Locate the Files of your truck. (You can add 3 files at a time)
5. Click Upload.
6. Add a description to the individual pictures, then click save.
7. Add more files if ya want.
8. Click The Picture you want to post, it will give you two codes at the bottom, Right Click The Second one (It say's BB Code, Then Say's [IMG]http:blahblahblah...[/IMG])
Then, Once that is highlighted, Right Click, Then Copy, Then Paste it into your post.
You can add up to 30 Images in one FTE Post.
If, Ya need any help, Don't hesitate to ask.


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You can also go to the "Garage" tab and start an album right here on FTE. After you post pictures to an album, we can look in your album, but you'll also be able to "insert a picture" by pasting in a link to the picture in your album.

It seems awkward, but whenever you "insert a picture" to one of these threads, the forum is looking for the picture somewhere on the web (which is always available) rather than from somewhere on your hard drive (which isn't always available).

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Welcome to FTE!

Go to Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket and sign up for a free account. Then create an album for your truck. Upload any pics you want to post on FTE to that album. Have this album open on your computer when you want to post pics on FTE.

While you're making a post on FTE, select the pic you want to post from your Photobucket album. When the large version of the pic is open, right mouse click on it and select "View Image Info". The image info will be highlighted and will look something like this:
The best photos and videos | Photobucket

Copy that highlighted info (right click / copy).

When you have the spot in your post where you want the pic to be placed, select the "Insert Image" icon at the top of the post (looks like a mountain) and paste (right click / paste) the image info you copied in the highlighted box (just shows "http://" when it opens).

Your pic will be placed in the post.

Hope that helps.

Here's a tutorial Bob put together: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/67...-pictures.html Bob's link is not working. Can someone in the know tell me why?

How to upload pictures to the FTE Forums. - YouTube. Thanks Sam Rusty_Old_F250. Best we can find is that this video was done by Gundown64

 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Hi, Thanks for the response and those picture's helped alot, Well where the road draft tube is on the engine picture, mine is gone and has a plate with two screws so I guess last owner got rid of it. I see now in the picture how to do the PCV Valve it makes sense, the engine has to breath, Ok so Fresh air goes into the breather and follows through blow by into the manifold and I guess it burns off thier??? Will PCV relieve Pressure and take care of the oil coming out of the breather? My oil filter is normal spin on I guess last owner put an adaptor to do that. As Far as posting picture's I need some time to figure it out when I get home from work. So the Pinion seal is possibly installed wrong? I guess i'm gonna take it back to the mechanic and ask, he said that maybe it also needs a new YOKE could that be TRUE? Thanks again for the information.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1958 Ford F250
Hi, Thanks for the response and those picture's helped alot, Well where the road draft tube is on the engine picture, mine is gone and has a plate with two screws so I guess last owner got rid of it. I see now in the picture how to do the PCV Valve it makes sense, the engine has to breath, Ok so Fresh air goes into the breather and follows through blow by into the manifold and I guess it burns off thier??? Will PCV relieve Pressure and take care of the oil coming out of the breather?
Look at the PCV pic again. 6A665 "Crankcase Ventilation Emission Reduction Adapter" fits into a hole at the rear of the engine block.

The 6A666 smog valve threads into 374963-S brass fitting that threads into a hole in the intake manifold in front of the carb. Then there's all the misc tubing between these parts.

Your 1958 292 engine (ditto if 1957 or 1959/60) will not have any of these features because PCV was introduced in 1961.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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OK, I see it, I'm gonna attempt this on my day off, Thanks for the Picture's and the Information I appreciate it. I guess 1961 was the year for the PCV I'm gonna start looking for them now when I browse for trucks. LOL One last question Does anybody know where I can get two 1958 "FORD F250" Emblems for either side of my hood, I have exhausted all SITE's online in attempts to find these Emblems since I purchased the Truck and I cannot find them anywhere!!! I MEAN ANYWHERE!!! Thanks again and when I get a chance I'll try to figure out the Picture's and I will post them.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Ya and post a pic from somewhere what the F250 emblems look like.
I have some sets but not sure what some are from.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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I have seen emblems on eBay from time to time, price VARIES, search eBay and Craigslist and ANY swap meets you can....try to post in classifieds as well.


[QUOTEOne last question Does anybody know where I can get two 1958 "FORD F250" Emblems for either side of my hood, I have exhausted all SITE's online in attempts to find these Emblems since I purchased the Truck and I cannot find them anywhere!!! I MEAN ANYWHERE!!! Thanks again and when I get a chance I'll try to figure out the Picture's and I will post them.[/QUOTE]
 
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Old Sep 30, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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Thanks !! I have Posted picture's of my truck in the album section, it is the red one that is titled WORK IN PROGRESS. Thier is a picture thier of the emblem on a blue hood. Yes Ebay has lot's but still no luck for the 1958 F250 one. They have every year but !958 F250, I guess i will keep looking. Let me know if you see the album picture.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 02:39 AM
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Hi, Yesterday I asked about my 1958 Ford F250's Dana 60 Differential, that my mechanic replaced the rear pinion seal and numberdummy got me thinking if it was installed properly. So I went back to my mechanic and we took it apart to look and Yes it was installed right, my mechanic then advised that if we put a new YOKE it would take care of the leaking problem, but i'm not so sure that would help, can anyone tell me if that is GOOD INFORMATION?? Also how do I check to see if my YOKE is 10 29 30 etc SPLINE??? I'm new here so i'm trying to learn the site which is great and full of alot of great Peaple and advice, HOW DO I PUT A PICTURE OF MY TRUCK NEXT TO MY PROFILE NAME like I see all you guys do when you ask a question. I see your picture of your truck or car next to your names??? Thanks
 
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Look at the PCV pic again. 6A665 "Crankcase Ventilation Emission Reduction Adapter" fits into a hole at the rear of the engine block.

The 6A666 smog valve threads into 374963-S brass fitting that threads into a hole in the intake manifold in front of the carb. Then there's all the misc tubing between these parts.

Your 1958 292 engine (ditto if 1957 or 1959/60) will not have any of these features because PCV was introduced in 1961.
That picture is a little deceiving, they are only typical and don't show changes. There is no hole on the rear of the block for the PVC adapter, it actually goes on the valley cover. It is probably the same valley cover as used on cars that had a rear road draft tube on the valley cover. 61 and later blocks have no opening in the front left part of the block for a road draft tube.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 1958 Ford F250
Hi, Yesterday I asked about my 1958 Ford F250's Dana 60 Differential, that my mechanic replaced the rear pinion seal and numberdummy got me thinking if it was installed properly. So I went back to my mechanic and we took it apart to look and Yes it was installed right, my mechanic then advised that if we put a new YOKE it would take care of the leaking problem, but i'm not so sure that would help, can anyone tell me if that is GOOD INFORMATION?? Also how do I check to see if my YOKE is 10 29 30 etc SPLINE??? I'm new here so i'm trying to learn the site which is great and full of alot of great Peaple and advice, HOW DO I PUT A PICTURE OF MY TRUCK NEXT TO MY PROFILE NAME like I see all you guys do when you ask a question. I see your picture of your truck or car next to your names??? Thanks
It is possible that a grove has been worn into the yoke and preventing the seal from properly sealing. Did your mechanic show you that problem on the yoke?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 09:40 AM
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1958 F250 emblem will mimic F100 emblem.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 1958 Ford F250
Hi, Yesterday I asked about my 1958 Ford F250's Dana 60 Differential, that my mechanic replaced the rear pinion seal and numberdummy got me thinking if it was installed properly. So I went back to my mechanic and we took it apart to look and Yes it was installed right, my mechanic then advised that if we put a new YOKE it would take care of the leaking problem, but i'm not so sure that would help, can anyone tell me if that is GOOD INFORMATION?? Also how do I check to see if my YOKE is 10 29 30 etc SPLINE??? I'm new here so i'm trying to learn the site which is great and full of alot of great Peaple and advice, HOW DO I PUT A PICTURE OF MY TRUCK NEXT TO MY PROFILE NAME like I see all you guys do when you ask a question. I see your picture of your truck or car next to your names??? Thanks

There is a repair for the yoke called a speedy sleeve or jiffy sleeve. It is a thin band that fits over the seal surface on the yoke and gives a new sealing surface. It is way cheaper than a new yoke and any parts store will have it. A real mechanic should know about this repair.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by arctic y block
There is a repair for the yoke called a speedy sleeve or jiffy sleeve. It is a thin band that fits over the seal surface on the yoke and gives a new sealing surface.

It is way cheaper than a new yoke and any parts store will have it. A real mechanic should know about this repair.
OP has typed a new thread on the leaky pinion seal problemo. I gave him this info.

The thing is, while you and I did, his mechanic...didn't.
 
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