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The Lizardskin will provide a certain amount of vibration dampening but not nearly as much as the Dynamat. It will take a topcoat of paint but I am not sure why you would want to paint it...it is really meant to be applied to surfaces that will later be covered. As for the inside ot the doors, they do have the Lizardskin applied to the internal surfaces...the Dynamat is applied over the Lizardskin to serve as a vibration dampener. The underside of the cab is coated with bedliner.
emay, thanks for the heads up on the camera settings. If I get it worked out I will post another pic that shows the true color.
Outlaw, here is a pic showing the tape line where the floor meets the rocker panel. The line seems to be very sharp...I did remove the tape before the coating came to a full set though.
emay, thanks for the heads up on the camera settings. If I get it worked out I will post another pic that shows the true color.
Outlaw, here is a pic showing the tape line where the floor meets the rocker panel. The line seems to be very sharp...I did remove the tape before the coating came to a full set though.
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Will there be dynamat in the cab? Or is the bedliner to act as a deadener? What type of bedliner was used, commercial spray on or out of a can?
Will the ceramic spheres work in oil based paints?
The reason I ask is it seams like the latex paint would peel on areas like the roof and back of cab when exposed to heat. At least that's been my experience on metals although they have typically been exposed to the elements and not on the inside.
Will the ceramic spheres work in oil based paints?
The reason I ask is it seams like the latex paint would peel on areas like the roof and back of cab when exposed to heat. At least that's been my experience on metals although they have typically been exposed to the elements and not on the inside.
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Yes it works with oil based paints.
On my cab I'm going to be coating the inside and underside with Durabak bedliner. I'm going to add the ceramic additive right to the bedliner in the first couple coats of bedliner. Not as cheap as the latex paint. But I'm going to be applying the bedliner anyways.
And CharlieLed great work on the truck! It's turning out great.
On my cab I'm going to be coating the inside and underside with Durabak bedliner. I'm going to add the ceramic additive right to the bedliner in the first couple coats of bedliner. Not as cheap as the latex paint. But I'm going to be applying the bedliner anyways.
And CharlieLed great work on the truck! It's turning out great.
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At this point the Lizardskin is only providing thermal barrier isolation...40% of the heat felt on the outside skin will be blocked from coming through to the interior side of the panel. Dynamat is a vibration dampener...which means that it will eliminate vibrations induced in the panel to which it is applied. Think of a cymbal, when hit it vibrates which produces sound. It only takes a finger placed on the cymbal to stop it from vibrating. So it is with a sheetmetal panel...place a small amount of Dynamat in the center of the panel and it dampens all vibrations. Dynamat does little to reduce thermal transfer nor does it do much to dampen sound that passes through the panel. I have only used the ceramic spheres with latex paint...heat has never been an issue, if it was then all the paint would have fallen off my house by now.
The bedliner used on this cab was applied by the shop that did the metal work for the owner before he brought it to me. All I can tell is that it is one of the smoother products and not a 2-part epoxy product.
The bedliner used on this cab was applied by the shop that did the metal work for the owner before he brought it to me. All I can tell is that it is one of the smoother products and not a 2-part epoxy product.
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I am using a new (at least new to me) clear for this project, House of Kolor Show Clear USC-01. I don't think that it is better after colorsanding than the other clears in the HOK line, but it does seem to have a better gloss straight out of the gun. Here's a shot that will give you a chance to read text in the reflection...
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Charlie that is beautiful! Hey I used your link and ordered the microspheres last night. When I get them and get the inside of the cab done I'll post pics. One question, did you pour out some of the paint to add the spheres or did you just mix all of it in a larger container?
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Charlie that is beautiful! Hey I used your link and ordered the microspheres last night. When I get them and get the inside of the cab done I'll post pics. One question, did you pour out some of the paint to add the spheres or did you just mix all of it in a larger container?
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Cost of your Quality Paint job
Hey Charlie ,
I am really impressed as everyone else that commented, You do absolute
Quality work!!!! It is SHOW QUALITY!!!!!! What do you imagine a shop would charge for the work that you are doing for your buddy??
I am ready to have my 56' Panel 'Media Blasted then Hammered & Dollied'
not sure what that is gonna cost me yet, but I have an idea. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
I am really impressed as everyone else that commented, You do absolute
Quality work!!!! It is SHOW QUALITY!!!!!! What do you imagine a shop would charge for the work that you are doing for your buddy??
I am ready to have my 56' Panel 'Media Blasted then Hammered & Dollied'
not sure what that is gonna cost me yet, but I have an idea. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
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Most of the shops around the San Diego area charge $100 per hour up for custom work. Add to that the cost of materials and you will soon find that the bottom line cost is huge. I do enough to keeps my hands in it and pay for some of my tools/toys. One of the biggest costs is the labor for colorsanding and show buffing. To begin with you have to spray almost twice as much clear on the panel as normal just to compensate for what you have to sand off. Then the progressive block sandings with 1000, 1500, 2000, and sometimes 2500 grit papers really gets the meter running. I hope this gives you a ballpark idea on what you may run into on your truck...BTW, many shops may promise to colorsand and buff but most will only knock down the dirt nibs and polish the orange peel.
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Charlie that is beautiful! Hey I used your link and ordered the microspheres last night. When I get them and get the inside of the cab done I'll post pics. One question, did you pour out some of the paint to add the spheres or did you just mix all of it in a larger container?
Lakota, did you mix your home brew lizzard skin? What kind of paint did you mix it with? Did you roll it or spray it? Any pictures?
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I am using a new (at least new to me) clear for this project, House of Kolor Show Clear USC-01. I don't think that it is better after colorsanding than the other clears in the HOK line, but it does seem to have a better gloss straight out of the gun. Here's a shot that will give you a chance to read text in the reflection...