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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 12:09 PM
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no wrecks on the carfax, but it does look like the fan shroud has been replaced or hacked on at least...even the belt pathway sticker is nearly coming off with very little adhesive left.

need to go to the dealer for a new key anyway.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ycis
no wrecks on the carfax, but it does look like the fan shroud has been replaced or hacked on at least...even the belt pathway sticker is nearly coming off with very little adhesive left.

need to go to the dealer for a new key anyway.
Lots of things are unreported to Carfax... You can even request that it's not reported when you have bodywork done...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Not to highjack this, does anybody know what year the 2 way communication's /programming started? Is it called communication area network(can)?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Not to highjack this, does anybody know what year the 2 way communication's /programming started? Is it called communication area network(can)?
Reasonable 2-way communication began with OBD-II between 1995-1996. CAN = Controller Area Network was phased in betwen 2006-2007.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Ford's entire product line was fully CAN-bus by 03 or 04, I forget which.

Torque App, with a functioning BT adapter and an android phone, will work on ANY Excursion, whether OBDII or OBDI. There is a free version you can use to test drive your BT adapter to see if it's worth springing a few bucks for the full app.

The emissions sticker is usually on the underside of the hood, above the general area of the radiator.


Torque app display of Mode $06 data on my truck:



VE screen shots of the entire Mode $06 data available:






You can see that both show misfire values in the registers for the #1 and #6 cylinders, one as a count, the other as a percentage.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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none of my excursions have ever registered a misfire unless i unplugged a COP, even though they could have a very noticeable miss. thats 3 V10 non CA Ex's.

my expedition on the other hand, the slightest miss and the CEL lights up. amazing the difference lol
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Ford's entire product line was fully CAN-bus by 03 or 04, I forget which.

Torque App, with a functioning BT adapter and an android phone, will work on ANY Excursion, whether OBDII or OBDI. There is a free version you can use to test drive your BT adapter to see if it's worth springing a few bucks for the full app.

The emissions sticker is usually on the underside of the hood, above the general area of the radiator.


Torque app display of Mode $06 data on my truck:



VE screen shots of the entire Mode $06 data available:






You can see that both show misfire values in the registers for the #1 and #6 cylinders, one as a count, the other as a percentage.
What is 'VE' ?
$55 and $56 fail.. which are those?
I've read some misfires are normal. They still pass so you might be changing cops when they are not needed.?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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What years where the V10s Russ?
 
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What is 'VE' ?
$55 and $56 fail.. which are those?
I've read some misfires are normal. They still pass so you might be changing cops when they are not needed.?
Please read previous posts in thread.

See OBDII manual for test IDs.

Misfires are not normal. Notice the other cylinders with zero misfires?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hav24wheel
What years where the V10s Russ?
i have had a 2000, 2002 (current) and 2004.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ycis
yea, the only stickers I found on the fan shroud described the belt pathway...
Open your hood and look up, not down. Emissions stickers are affixed to the underside of the hood, near where the latch would catch.

Here's mine on the Ex.


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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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yessir, i did a pretty good examination of the engine bay both up and down.

theres nothing on the hood either...only sticker left that I see (other than the powerstroke emblem on the fan shroud) is the belt pathway.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ycis
yessir, i did a pretty good examination of the engine bay both up and down.

theres nothing on the hood either...only sticker left that I see (other than the powerstroke emblem on the fan shroud) is the belt pathway.
Good to go. I just wanted to make sure you didn't limit your "look" to the fan shroud / jack equipment area.

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Old Aug 15, 2013 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AlaskanEx
i have had a 2000, 2002 (current) and 2004.
I would have thought the o4 would detect a missfire better than the two older ones.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2013 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hav24wheel
I would have thought the o4 would detect a missfire better than the two older ones.
i had the same issues with COP's and plugs with the 2004 as i did with my 2002. both acted exactly the same. the only way the CEL would come on is when i unplugged a COP. otherwise they had a bad miss but no CEL.

that is part of the reason i shot gunned it and put all new motorcraft COP's and autolite double plat plugs.
 
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