crew cab questons!!!
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crew cab questons!!!
alright so I work at a restoration and repair shop down in phoenix AZ and we just recently started working on doing a frame off restoration on a what i believe to be a 1964 ford crew cab, it does have the "wrong bed" They want to get it back to what it was when it was being used as a work truck, now from what i understand they were basically used for like railroad and forest service, there is a slight hint of a logo on the door that i will get a pic of but it looks kind of like a forest service badge but with a star hanging off the top of it... below there are some pictures. any info or other pictures of these trucks would be greatly appreciated
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It's an F250 4WD, so it would have come with the 'wrong' bed. The only 1961/66 4WD that didn't: 1966 F100 4WD.
I doubt it was purchased new by any US or state gov't agency, R/R or petroleum companies, because they bought the cheapest trucks possible.
This truck is a Custom Cab and it's painted Caribbean Turquoise. What gov't agency, R/R, oil company had vehicles painted this color?
Has a 1964/66 front bumper, 1965/66 upper grille panel, 1966 Custom Cab grille. The fender emblems appear to be the same as 1963/64 hood side emblems.
Mid year 1965: FoMoCo began assembling their own crews, prior crews were all conversions (many done by Crown Coach) that had exposed rear door hinges.
The last 6 digits of the VIN will decode to the month/year it was assembled.
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I doubt it was purchased new by any US or state gov't agency, R/R or petroleum companies, because they bought the cheapest trucks possible.
This truck is a Custom Cab and it's painted Caribbean Turquoise. What gov't agency, R/R, oil company had vehicles painted this color?
Has a 1964/66 front bumper, 1965/66 upper grille panel, 1966 Custom Cab grille. The fender emblems appear to be the same as 1963/64 hood side emblems.
Mid year 1965: FoMoCo began assembling their own crews, prior crews were all conversions (many done by Crown Coach) that had exposed rear door hinges.
The last 6 digits of the VIN will decode to the month/year it was assembled.
FTE member garbz2 (Dave) knows more about crews than anyone else, lives in Glendale...AZ
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I have a '64 F100 CrewCab built by Crown. It's been in the family since 1965.
I can't tell from the photos, is it a regular longbed with a shortened bed? Mine is, and I'd be curious as to how the bed was shortened.
Was the drive shaft altered from a regular long bed one?
What brakes are in there? Stock? Other?
I'd really be curious as to what the door jamb tag reveals about what it started out from the factory. Keep posting photos!
If you need photos of something from mine, let me know.
I can't tell from the photos, is it a regular longbed with a shortened bed? Mine is, and I'd be curious as to how the bed was shortened.
Was the drive shaft altered from a regular long bed one?
What brakes are in there? Stock? Other?
I'd really be curious as to what the door jamb tag reveals about what it started out from the factory. Keep posting photos!
If you need photos of something from mine, let me know.
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here are some more pics, some of the front axel and rear brakes and also of how the bed was shortened, i also took one of the logo (what you can se of it) on the door. also the vin if anyone can give me any other info on this truck it would be greatly appreciated or pics of some equipped somewhat like this just for more resources when we are restoring it
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Converted by Crown.
It is a standard F260 four wheel drive as delivered. Then the bed was removed. the cab cut and filler panels added. new doors made from stock ones to fit the openings.
If you look at the way it was done it is pretty crude. My 66 Crown was very similar.
The bed front is lopped off and the stock front panel is replaced and the bed bolted back on to fit the 120" wheel base.
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It is a standard F260 four wheel drive as delivered. Then the bed was removed. the cab cut and filler panels added. new doors made from stock ones to fit the openings.
If you look at the way it was done it is pretty crude. My 66 Crown was very similar.
The bed front is lopped off and the stock front panel is replaced and the bed bolted back on to fit the 120" wheel base.
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I've never seen one of these crew cabs with a bed cut to fit the way that one is from ford or any conversion companies. Garbz did many of the crews have the bed cut like that or very few of them? Did they not make or extend the frames until the bump sides? Also your old 66 crew do you know if it was exactly like this one or did it have a full size short bed and is that a picture of yours as you were building it? Man I wish It still had all the good body panels on it when I bought it. Now I need a radiator support both front doors both inner and outer fenders and a tailgate somewhere down the line after you sold it somebody swapped all them good parts and I got somebody's junk body parts with the crew
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This truck was done by an aftermarket body builder, the way all were done before Ford started building there own starting in mid '65. Even after '65, aftermarket companies continued to convert cabs. The cheap way was to leave it on the same standard 120" wheelbase, resulting in a very strange look. Why not do it right and stretch the frame now for a full 6 1/2' (with same styling). Here is a period photo with the same conversion.
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here are some more pics, some of the front axel and rear brakes and also of how the bed was shortened, i also took one of the logo (what you can se of it) on the door. also the vin if anyone can give me any other info on this truck it would be greatly appreciated or pics of some equipped somewhat like this just for more resources when we are restoring it
June 1977, on the way to Harrah's swap meet in Reno, I stopped at SacCal, the Sacramento Motorcraft jobber to buy some obsolete parts.
Fellow informed what had occurred in Winters, said you better go there, they have TONS of obsolete parts and she's throwing them all into the dipsy dumpster.
When I got there, the fellow wasn't kidding, there was so much (100's of war surplus 11A dizzies for one example), that I called Preston Ledbetter, who owned F100 Parts Unlimited in San Jose, said come here ASAP and bring your flatbed.
We made the granddaughter a blanket offer for all the parts, she accepted. But we were too late to save the two double sided Ford script porcelain/neon signs that she had torn off the building.
Once they were on the ground, she beat on them with a sledge hammer,. tossed the remains in the dumpster. Back then, those signs were worth at least 2 grand each, today at least 10 grand each.
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thats pretty crazy about the dealership, your story is a lil bit of a coincidence because this truck has a harrahs sticker on it lol. is there anyone on here that knows where i can decode this vin number from the pics above? that old picture is like exactly what were looking for now if only i could figure out what the painted logo was...
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This truck was done by an aftermarket body builder, the way all were done before Ford started building there own starting in mid '65. Even after '65, aftermarket companies continued to convert cabs. The cheap way was to leave it on the same standard 120" wheelbase, resulting in a very strange look. Why not do it right and stretch the frame now for a full 6 1/2' (with same styling). Here is a period photo with the same conversion.
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Very interesting bed chop treatment. My '64 F100 is either on a longer frame, or the ones above are on slightly shorter ones. Mine has a short flat space ahead of the wheel well.
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Strange that the data tag says Made in Canada. Truck must have been built in Oakville, then shipped to California to be converted. I wonder if the truck was originally ordered by an Airstream Caravanner. The blue truck in the grainy photo is participating in an Airstream tour, I recognize the photo of the people looking at a rock carving in Egypt, I believe.