AE Class II - Troubleshooting
Cargo Master
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From: OKC, OK
Great info guys, thanks.
Looking at the data I see that the FIPW gets all the way up to 4.75. I thought I had the max set right on the session but I was wrong so I didn't post a graph with FIPW, but here's at screen shot.
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Weird how the MFD never goes over 68 in 80e but does in stock? Much more research to do.
This all tells me that you cant try to diagnose an issue in a non-stock tune unless you know all the ins and outs of the tuning.
Looking at the data I see that the FIPW gets all the way up to 4.75. I thought I had the max set right on the session but I was wrong so I didn't post a graph with FIPW, but here's at screen shot.
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[/IMG]Weird how the MFD never goes over 68 in 80e but does in stock? Much more research to do.
This all tells me that you cant try to diagnose an issue in a non-stock tune unless you know all the ins and outs of the tuning.
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Hotshot
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From: Puget Sound
Whuh??? 2000? I think you mean 3000. Here is a stock tune all-out. Pay no real attention to the scale on the FIPW, some versions of AE report the FIPW at 10% of the actual reading. Just multiply the number by 10.
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I stopped off @AE today, and got my software and connector updated, I had 10 days left on my first year, and wanted to get the updates. My friends sell lots of cars and I could not do 2011 and 2012 vehicles. They seem like a friendly bunch of guys @AE, nice to have them in my hometown.
I was checking out the new connector they have and are shipping with the new versions. It has the dongle built in. He was saying that some older computers are having issues with them, that the USB's don't put out enough power and you will have it quit communicating in the middle of a session. I asked him what the new one could do that the old one couldn't and he said it would communicate with "some of the older chevy vehicles" that it had support for it. He said I could upgrade to one of them for 150 bucks... no thanks, 700 for the domestic bundle was more then enough, a year ago.
I hope I was not too intrusive, but the guy was nice and showed me what the inside of my connector and also the new connector, he had laying there on his desk, (being an electronics nerd I was interested.) I just didn't want to void my warranty by popping the case apart.
I was checking out the new connector they have and are shipping with the new versions. It has the dongle built in. He was saying that some older computers are having issues with them, that the USB's don't put out enough power and you will have it quit communicating in the middle of a session. I asked him what the new one could do that the old one couldn't and he said it would communicate with "some of the older chevy vehicles" that it had support for it. He said I could upgrade to one of them for 150 bucks... no thanks, 700 for the domestic bundle was more then enough, a year ago.
I hope I was not too intrusive, but the guy was nice and showed me what the inside of my connector and also the new connector, he had laying there on his desk, (being an electronics nerd I was interested.) I just didn't want to void my warranty by popping the case apart.
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Oh when I was talking with the guy he said the owner of AE when he was building the Ford bundle he said the guy was hooked up to his Expedition and the battery was low, he put the charger on it at like 10 amps charging, and he was blowing up connectors about every 20 minutes. Sounds like you really don't want to be trying to scanning a vehicle and charging it at the same time. The guy I was talking with said the owner went through 4 or 5 of them during that session, what are you going to tell the guy that owns the company, that he can't blow up his own product?
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From: Farmington, Minnesota
FIRST AE GRAPHS
I'm really late to class, the room has changed. I have been subscribed to the original class from last semester since Rich started it, and just recently bought AE, version 11.2. I have spent most of the day today going through the original thread and recording some data.
I'll start with the original homework, KOEO:
I didn't take screen shot of these.
At 1000'
MAP 14.0psi
EBP 13.77psi
BP 4.43v
I replaced my EBPS and tube in 2007ish, so I though it was going to be really bad what do you think?
I logged 2nd graph this morning before I did enough research it should maybe have FIPW & MFD. I have the 1st version of the T-500, back when it was just a Terminator modded 17° pump. Both on 80E.
Let me know your thoughts
I'm really late to class, the room has changed. I have been subscribed to the original class from last semester since Rich started it, and just recently bought AE, version 11.2. I have spent most of the day today going through the original thread and recording some data.
I'll start with the original homework, KOEO:
I didn't take screen shot of these.
At 1000'
MAP 14.0psi
EBP 13.77psi
BP 4.43v
I replaced my EBPS and tube in 2007ish, so I though it was going to be really bad what do you think?
I logged 2nd graph this morning before I did enough research it should maybe have FIPW & MFD. I have the 1st version of the T-500, back when it was just a Terminator modded 17° pump. Both on 80E.
Let me know your thoughts
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Your IPR is a little high and climbing, but not bad. Your ICP is hangin' in there at WOT - very good. This is probably the best 80e reading I've seen - I'll just bet you got up to 80 MPH right quick with reasonable EGTs.
KOEO MAP and EBP - all good. Roll with it.
20 PSI boost at max? Is your red line connected to the turbo? You can disconnect and plug the red line... that will give you a bump in boost, but you'll need to do another AE run to make sure your ICP doesn't tank.
Great job!
KOEO MAP and EBP - all good. Roll with it.
20 PSI boost at max? Is your red line connected to the turbo? You can disconnect and plug the red line... that will give you a bump in boost, but you'll need to do another AE run to make sure your ICP doesn't tank.
Great job!
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From: Farmington, Minnesota
Your IPR is a little high and climbing, but not bad. Your ICP is hangin' in there at WOT - very good. This is probably the best 80e reading I've seen - I'll just bet you got up to 80 MPH right quick with reasonable EGTs.
KOEO MAP and EBP - all good. Roll with it.
20 PSI boost at max? Is your red line connected to the turbo? You can disconnect and plug the red line... that will give you a bump in boost, but you'll need to do another AE run to make sure your ICP doesn't tank.
Great job!
KOEO MAP and EBP - all good. Roll with it.
20 PSI boost at max? Is your red line connected to the turbo? You can disconnect and plug the red line... that will give you a bump in boost, but you'll need to do another AE run to make sure your ICP doesn't tank.
Great job!
Red line is plugged, 20 PSI is low hum...I wasn't watching the boost gauge as a double check. I know I have seen it go to 25-27ish lately and in the past 30 PSI.
Thanks for the input.
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Kinda flat isn't it, on AE, what would that make my maximum be? Thanks
Butt-Head
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From: Reed Point, MT
Close to, uh, five mS.
It is absolutely amazing that your injection pressure is where it is under those circumstances, T500 or not. But your injectors are empty by that time at that pressure anyway.