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Jun 23, 2013 | 02:50 AM

Kiwicapri

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Starter motor Identification needed

Hi Guys

Wonder if there is an expert out there who can identify a starter motor i have. Snout casting number is C6AF-11131-A.4" steel body like an FE starter, but it is a 2 bolt, not 3 bolt.Cheers.Wayne.

Jun 23, 2013 | 03:23 AM

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well I know it's for a '66 but it should fit up to a '70...... inline 6 cyl 200ci only for a manual trans... think they were mostly in mustangs

I hope this helps, good luck!

Jun 23, 2013 | 03:43 AM

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well I know it's for a '66 but it should fit up to a '70...... inline 6 cyl 200ci only for a manual trans... think they were mostly in mustangs

I hope this helps, good luck!

Thant is the best news I've had and most info I've had. I'm glad I've joined thius Group. Where would be the best place to try and find an origonal? I only realy need the snout if i could find one, mine is cracxked but a couple would preferable so i have a spare.

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Wayne

Jun 23, 2013 | 03:55 AM

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Yikes, now that I don't know. Many ppl I know look for them to rebuild and have a backup. They are a rarity unfortunately. Maybe you will have luck and have someone else chime in on that topic. :-/

Jun 23, 2013 | 04:07 AM

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Wayne, Don't know why it is important to have an original, but go yarding or swap meet, take the snout with you for ID-ing shouldn't be hard to find one.

Cuba may have mistakenly put 200 instead of 300, but he can splain.

John

Jun 23, 2013 | 04:14 AM

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Cuba may have mistakenly put 200 instead of 300, but he can splain.

John

Hey John, why do you think I'm mistaken? 200 ci is also straight six cylinder right? I am no expert but have done plenty of wrench turning all ages of motor driven equipment. I know there are other size inline 6's but the starter above will only fit the 200ci. And I'm a Girl.

Jun 23, 2013 | 05:35 AM

jowilker

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I guess because this is a truck forum and 300 is a truck engine no 200s ever used in a truck. Hitting the 2 key instead of the 3 would be an easy mistake.

John

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Jun 23, 2013 | 03:33 PM

Kiwicapri

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So, Is the starter out of a 66-70 200 or 300ci engine. Issue i have John, is that I'm in New Zealand, so i need to find a few scrap yards in the USA to contact. The answer to your question re importance of original, is quite easy. I'm restoring a Vehicle with historic importance that was produced in the early 70's, in very low numbers, that used a variaty of parts off the shelf from several diffrent Ford vehicles. My research told me that F series trucks may have supplied the starter, and some say Mustang- What should be the body part number if it is a L6 4" starter with two bolt face plate? Is it C7AF 11001 -D?? Cheers, Wayne.

Jun 23, 2013 | 04:41 PM

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You cannot go by casting/ID engineering numbers marked on parts to ID the year or what vehicle(s) the part is from, because...

Ford is in-famous for replacing/updating 10's of 1000's of part numbers EVERY

YEAR!

C3OZ-11002-C .. Three Hole Starter: 1963/71 352/390/406/410/427/428 Passenger Cars / 1965/76 352/360/390 F100/350.

200 I-6 with C4 A/T: 1964/70 Fairlane / 1965/70 Falcon/Mustang / 1968 Torino / 1969/74 Econoline / 1970/75 Maverick/Comet / 1975 Granada.

Note: 1958/62 FE Passenger Cars use a 3 hole starter w/a Bendix inertia starter drive (11350). Stay Away!

1958/64 FE flywheels have 153 teeth / 1965/76 FE flywheels have 184 teeth.

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Jun 24, 2013 | 02:56 AM

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I understand that is the case. I my situation, it was a stab in the dark as to what my starter came out of. Thank you all for your assitannce on this. In NZ, we did not get a lot of US built cars, if we did, they wre mostly RHD Canadian assemveled items. In my case, the car I'm trying to restore, was made in South Africa, using an English based body shell and componets donated from various Ford vehicles around the globe. If i could work out how to attach pictures, would that make it easier? I can tell you, it is a 2 bolt 4" body, (as apposed to the usual 4.5" body) starter froma manual trans. It has exactly the same bolt patern as a 302W with Manual trans, only it is shorter. I've been given a number that may make head or tail C7AF-11001-D. I can find plenty of C7AF-11001-B (Automatic) F (manual 302W Mustang etc) and C and E , but I can not find a D. Acording to the master parst list it is for a 1966 onwards 289W ????

All very confusing..............cheers

Wayne

Jun 24, 2013 | 04:28 AM

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Ford replaces part numbers more often than women change their minds! So there's a gazillion different ID numbers to go along with them..

..as you can see:

Marked with ID numbers: C5TF-11001-A or C6AF-11001-B or C7AF-11001-D or C7AF-11001-F or D0AF-11001-C or D2AF-11001-DA or D5TF-11001-AA or DA or D8TF-11001-AA or E1TF-11001-AA

Ford part number: C5TZ-11002-A replaced by C5TZ-11002-D, replaced by D4TZ-11002-D replaced by: E1TZ-11002-A .. 240/300 I-6 3/4 speed M/T Starter Assy (Motorcraft SA-712-A).

1965/67 Econoline 240 / 1965/71 Galaxie/LTD 240 / 1965/74 F100/350 240/300 / 1969/74 Econoline 240/300 / 1975/96 F100/350 & Econoline 300 / 1980/96 Bronco 300.

But wait, there's more! Passenger Car M/T misc applications: 1965/68 289 / 1968/74 302 / 1970/74 351C and etc etc etc.