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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:09 PM
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No, Scott hasn't sent anything as we haven't finished our conversation. Both of us had other things to do and he promised to call back at some point.

As for his cam losing to the Ecam, it looks to me like it is dropping at a slower rate below 3000 than the others are. I wish DD would let me show output below 2K as that's significant to me. Oh well.....

Yes, the little gears are turning and they are meshed - but maybe in Reverse! I'm still wanting to try aftermarket heads, and I've seen at least two magazines go with the Edelbrocks with good results. And, DD shows good results with them as well. But, there is still more research to do. Wonder what Scott would recommend for a cam using those heads? Or, what does he charge for his heads???? Hmmmm.....
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:12 PM
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cam stuff

PM sent on a cam shaft.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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desktop dyno

yeah wish it would show down to 900 rpm on desktop dyno. the lower rpms are critical to me on my towing/mpg engines.Carcraft sept 2013 had a big intake dyno challenge with air gaps and many other intakes. interesting info to read into on dual plane intakes.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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tractor cams!

Scott calls my cams tractor cams. I'm all about the torque and towing for my 4wds. If your talk to him tell him robert from sheridan wyo sent you! been a little while since i'v talked to him. working north dakota a lot.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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2 different cams

Had scott come up with 2 cams and this is the conservative one i went with in my application. probably should of went non conservative!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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Here is a build that Hotrod Magazine did with the 400. It's a little more than what you were looking for, but it may have some good info in it too.http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_0702_ford_400m_engine_build/viewall.html

Here is another one:http://www.projectbronco.com/Technical_Articles/351m400_performance_build_up.htm

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2007/02/Ford400/

This one might be closer to what you want:http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/1002clt_ford_400m_engine_rebuild/viewall.html
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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I told him "a guy from FTE sent me", but I will tell him it was Robert from Sheridan next time. And, that's what I want - tractor-like torque.

And, I read the Hot Rod bit a few months ago. It was one of at least two magazines that used the E'brock heads, with obviously good results.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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You better go with the diesel then if you want tractor torque.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Question on input of cam info. Figuring Ramp rates of cam lobes. Are you inputing you lift at .050 lift and .100 .200 and so on. Can have 3 cams same lift and come up with 3 different answers due to ramp rates and valve timing opening rates. Just figured i ask. used to play with the desktop dyno a lot. good tool to play with!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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bruno you are hurting our feelings!

tractor torque can be had down low with a gasser because of no turbo lag with gasser. don't have to wait on spool up of turbo. When serious its called supercharger for down low on gasser. thanks bruno for bursting out bubble!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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The torque curve on the MPG cam looks pretty good, and looks that if it went down to 1000 RPM's it might even outdo the ecam, but honestly I don't know if you would notice any seat of the pants difference between the two.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wyoming4x4
Question on input of cam info. Figuring Ramp rates of cam lobes. Are you inputing you lift at .050 lift and .100 .200 and so on. Can have 3 cams same lift and come up with 3 different answers due to ramp rates and valve timing opening rates. Just figured i ask. used to play with the desktop dyno a lot. good tool to play with!
I don't typically have the lift values for each .100" increment. The best I have is open/close event timings @.050", intake lobe centerline, and lobe separation angle. So there is no way to take into account ramp rates as I don't know them. Further, since ramp rates between flat tappet and roller cams vary significantly and I can't accommodate that it makes my comparison of a flat tappet and a roller cam invalid.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JPalmer81
The torque curve on the MPG cam looks pretty good, and looks that if it went down to 1000 RPM's it might even outdo the ecam, but honestly I don't know if you would notice any seat of the pants difference between the two.
Agreed. But, the MPG cam should give better idle vacuum and have less wear due to the lower lift. Further, Scott said it would be better for fuel economy.
 
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Gary isn't interested in a diesel. We all threw it out there on his Dads Truck thread and he wasnt very receptive to the idea.

Gary, have you considered swapping in a small block Chevy?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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Gary isn't interested in a diesel. We all threw it out there on his Dads Truck thread and he wasnt very receptive to the idea.

Gary, have you considered swapping in a small block Chevy?
Yes, I have. And my answer is
 
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