I'm starting to get a little curious about this. Almost too curious for my own good, actually.

Having had a manual truck before my 250, I really miss it. Tiptronic just doesn't do it anymore for me. The thought of getting rid of a 2011 to get an older truck, a little more loaded, with a stick shift is unsettling to me. Especially knowing with my budget I would wind up with a 6.0L, and would not like to buy something to turn and spend mega bucks modding it just for reliability. So I started digging. I have found no attempts at a manual transmission swap in a 2011+ F250/350 with a 6.2, or a 6.7. I have, however found a lot of information.

The truck in question is a 2011 F250, 4x4, 6.2L regular cab. It is an XL.

So far, I have found out the following:
-The ZF6 was found on various SD's, mainly popping up the awesome 7.3. Also the 6.0, and possibly the 5.4.

-The 6.2 is not the same block as a 5.4, but shares (possibly) the same bellhousing bolt pattern as the 5.4 and the V10. These share the same patterns as the diesels.

-The ZF6 does not have a separate bellhousing, rather it is integrated. But, the pattern is the same as the 5.4 to the 6.0, as this transmission came with both.

-The V10 is listed in the 2011 owner's manual as an engine option, and I BELIEVE it mentions a manual transmission for such trucks. This is only on larger (F550+) and possibly foreign trucks.

-The new automatic that I have is a "smart" transmission, meaning it learns shift patterns and has a separate TCM. Some form of reprogramming would be in order.

I need information on the following: driveshaft sizes, crossmember locations, flywheel compatibility, clutch compatibility and hardware, transfer case compatibility, and anything i may be forgetting. I also do not know how a manual swap would take place, as far as the TCM is concerned.

I'm guessing I'm right in saying that I may be the first person with these questions. It is definitely a LOT of work, probably not worth it in the end, but it would make for something different. It would also probably be rather hard on the wallet to do so, which is why I'm trying to find out this information before going on.

Am I the only one with this idea?

 

Honestly, if I absolutely had to have a stick, I'd just go over to a Ram dealer and get a HD Ram with the 6.7L Cummins. They're the only ones left that offer a stick in a full size pickup from the factory.

The newer trucks from Ford and GM weren't designed with a stick in mind and trying to swap one over will probably be more of a headache then it's worth. Mechanically it might swap right in, but the software side of things is where the biggest headache always arises with modifications to newer vehicles.

 

I guess I'm just a special breed of insane

I'd rather have my Ford any day over a Dodge. I'm more or less seeing if its mechanically possible. With any budget it is, but not mine lol. I guess I'll just wait and see a few years down the road. When I set out to buy my '11 I tried to find one with a 7.3/6 speed, but the closest I could find was about 5 states away.

I'm sure someone someday will have my idea!

 

The biggest problem might be fitting a pilot bearing to the crankshaft, since the 6.2 has never had a manual fitted to it I doubt they would have drilled the hole for it.

Nothing a little machine work can't fix though...

Wikipedia does say the bell housing is the same as the modular motors.

Sam

 

It's no ZF6, but you can get a new F-350 in Venezuela with a 5sp manual, Tremec TR-4050, here's a couple pics:

 

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The 2016 superduty XL in mexico comes w/ the 6.2L n 5spd tranny. So ford does make all the components including wiring harness. So yes it can be done!!!.

 

Interesting! I wonder if the US market 6.2's have the crank drilled for the pilot bushing, I would guess no...

How long has this combo been available in Mexico? Sounds like someone needs to run down there, buy a wrecked one and start swapping!

Sam

 

if you do it.. be sure to grab the lower center Dash panels... no cup holders...

you do not want the shift lever to crush the cup holder going into THIRD

the best of luck with your research, search. Dreaming..

I wish my 2012 F 250 had a manual.. this vehicle is the first one with an automatic since 1988..
been driving since 1967.. only 2 with automatics...
last one... 1977 Chevy Caprice 2 door... ordered New with a manual .. arrived with automatic. with full police package except for interior. "F41" suspension and a 4bbl

 

Oh man, a 6.2 with a 5-spd manual would be amazingly awesome !!

Well, you could pull the transmission, and see if there is a hole in there for the pilot bushing. I'm betting there is one.

If so, you could go down to Mexico, and order all the parts for it, transmission, stick lever, whatever else, maybe different PCM, and convert your truck to a Mexican version of it.

Only the chassis cab trucks look like they have the manual with the 6.2 L. The F250 is crew cab only, diesel only. You have to click on the chassis cabs for the manual.

http://www.ford.mx/camiones

 

If you know the right machine guy it can be I made the swap on my 6.2 when I rebuilt my truck after I sent cylinder 7 to oblivion but after some slight machine work I paid a total of 3000 for machine work and proper programming but I also had to program it to run with no cats cause I deleted those in the process

 

aside from this being an 8 year old thread, the post your quoting is wrong. the 6.2 did have a manual option just not in the US. in Mexico and Venezuela the f350 had a 5 speed tremec TR-4050 available.

 

Yeah, I know this is old. Did the manual swap ever get done by anyone?

 

Travis,
I laugh every time I see you and I both creeping on the same posts! Great minds think alike! (Especially when they have the same truck!) Let me know when you want to head south of the border to go parts-picking in a Mexican salvage yard!

 

i have not seen it done in a super duty. i have seen it done in an older truck. im not sure if the guy ive seen is part of this forum but i see him post on occasion in some of the various 6.2 facebook groups.