Looking for advice on setting tile
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My wife has always told me I do things the most expensive way! LOL
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Oh you didnt go there. I'm going to remain polite here for Tim.
I've been building upscale, high quality homes here in one of the most code restrictive markets in the country for 34 years. I have never...thats NEVER...had an installation related service call. My finish work has been published in major print media including Inland Architect and Metropolitan Home.
The only time one would realistically mudset 1x1 sheet mosaic would be a mudbase shower or a floor and then it would not be done over 1/4" durock as you suggest...it would be done in a true mudbase screeded over wire lath.
Additionally, one would NEVER use drywall screws to attach durock to studs as they would be rusting away as soon as the phosphate coating rubbed off...as you mentioned earlier. Drywall screws are also not structural, a consideration when calculating the weight of substrate, setting material and tile.
I find it comforting and prideful to still be able to visit homes we did back in the 70s and 80s and view the permanence with which we built. I have never had an installation needing to be redone in 5 or 10 years unless someone changed it for purely aesthetic reasons.
I've been building upscale, high quality homes here in one of the most code restrictive markets in the country for 34 years. I have never...thats NEVER...had an installation related service call. My finish work has been published in major print media including Inland Architect and Metropolitan Home.
The only time one would realistically mudset 1x1 sheet mosaic would be a mudbase shower or a floor and then it would not be done over 1/4" durock as you suggest...it would be done in a true mudbase screeded over wire lath.
Additionally, one would NEVER use drywall screws to attach durock to studs as they would be rusting away as soon as the phosphate coating rubbed off...as you mentioned earlier. Drywall screws are also not structural, a consideration when calculating the weight of substrate, setting material and tile.
I find it comforting and prideful to still be able to visit homes we did back in the 70s and 80s and view the permanence with which we built. I have never had an installation needing to be redone in 5 or 10 years unless someone changed it for purely aesthetic reasons.
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My dad was a home builder, general contractor and furniture maker for most of my life. He built some of the prettiest things made of wood that I've seen.
I assure you all that this job will be done to his standards, after all, it's my house and I have to look at it.
I'm well equipped, I have a light duty tub saw, notched trowels, grout floats, etc. All I need is a pair of nippers and a tile scoring jig.
I assure you all that this job will be done to his standards, after all, it's my house and I have to look at it.
I'm well equipped, I have a light duty tub saw, notched trowels, grout floats, etc. All I need is a pair of nippers and a tile scoring jig.
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Whoa a second there Ed. I sense your quite upset with my remarks. None of my post was meant as anything demeaning what so ever. I'm truly apologetic if you took it that way, I'm not in the habit of slamming other builders.
With your credits, you're undoubtedly a pretty good builder. I merely suggested the way I do things, and ya, my bad on the non hotdipped screws, and of course, not many fasteners are structural.
But, everyone has their own way, of doing anything you can think of, I put my right shoe on before the left every day, is that how everyone does it? Throw a little humour in there, and again, I meant no slam to you what so ever. Peace man.
Sorry Tim, I'll butt out of this thread now, I wish it hadn't turned this way.
With your credits, you're undoubtedly a pretty good builder. I merely suggested the way I do things, and ya, my bad on the non hotdipped screws, and of course, not many fasteners are structural.
But, everyone has their own way, of doing anything you can think of, I put my right shoe on before the left every day, is that how everyone does it? Throw a little humour in there, and again, I meant no slam to you what so ever. Peace man.
Sorry Tim, I'll butt out of this thread now, I wish it hadn't turned this way.
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Whoa a second there Ed. I sense your quite upset with my remarks. None of my post was meant as anything demeaning what so ever. I'm truly apologetic if you took it that way, I'm not in the habit of slamming other builders.
With your credits, you're undoubtedly a pretty good builder. I merely suggested the way I do things, and ya, my bad on the non hotdipped screws, and of course, not many fasteners are structural.
But, everyone has their own way, of doing anything you can think of, I put my right shoe on before the left every day, is that how everyone does it? Throw a little humour in there, and again, I meant no slam to you what so ever. Peace man.
Sorry Tim, I'll butt out of this thread now, I wish it hadn't turned this way.
With your credits, you're undoubtedly a pretty good builder. I merely suggested the way I do things, and ya, my bad on the non hotdipped screws, and of course, not many fasteners are structural.
But, everyone has their own way, of doing anything you can think of, I put my right shoe on before the left every day, is that how everyone does it? Throw a little humour in there, and again, I meant no slam to you what so ever. Peace man.
Sorry Tim, I'll butt out of this thread now, I wish it hadn't turned this way.
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