Weight info please
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Weight info please
I had gotten pulled over in New York in my 2006 Ford F250 XLT Super-Duty pick-up full 4 door extended cab,5.4L. The Trooper was cool but said my truck looks pretty heavy for passenger plates. Does anyone know what the weight of my truck is and why this is a problem. I live in New York, is it that I need some type of cover or cap on my pickup bed ? Any and all help would be great, Thanks.
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It used to be in NY all PU trucks where registered as commercial, 5+ years ago (guessing roughly), now you have a choice when registering them as commercial or passenger each has their own weight class. As passenger you can go on a parkway, commercial you shouldn't be on a parkway. Now this is just a blanket statement so don't hold my feet to the fire, but most of these SD trucks weigh in 7,000# or more, which I believe is more than passenger weight rating.
Many people register this way so they save money and can be on the Parkways. NY is catching on to this and they are in need of money, so now they might be trying to close this by having the unsuspecting pay if your caught.
Many people register this way so they save money and can be on the Parkways. NY is catching on to this and they are in need of money, so now they might be trying to close this by having the unsuspecting pay if your caught.
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Here's a weight slip from when I brought some stuff to the dump. Mine came in at 7,140 lbs, and it's a 5.4, extended cab, short bed, and my gas tank was nearly empty at the time. Being a crew cab, yours is probably a few hundred pounds heavier.
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Only way to know is to use the published weights as a guide and go to a cat scale to see what it really weighs:
2006 Ford F-250/F-350 Super Duty Specifications
CAT Scale
my 13 platinum said 7790 or something for weight, but real weight was 8700 at the cat scales....
sorry if I don't finish - just heard 24 children died in okla tornado.... sad
2006 Ford F-250/F-350 Super Duty Specifications
CAT Scale
my 13 platinum said 7790 or something for weight, but real weight was 8700 at the cat scales....
sorry if I don't finish - just heard 24 children died in okla tornado.... sad
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I suspect every jurisdiction is different. My suggestion is for you to go to where you renew your tags (DOT department or licensing agency) and ask a few questions regarding owning and licensing a pickup truck for non-commercial use in NY state.
I know that in Ontario Canada, all 3/4 ton pick-ups are considered commercial vehicles and registered accordingly. Further, they must use a certain license plate colour combo (black lettering on white background). You can have ones designated "farm" too.
However, in Ontario, you can transfer "personalized/vanity" plates to your pickup if you already have them (which I did) and you can request a special (free) sticker which is placed in the top left of the plate which reads "For Recreational Use only" ... meaning it is not for commercial use. This helps Canadian pickups from Ontario crossed the US border with less hassle. I don't know what the other provinces do. Perhaps NY state has similar rules. ~ Bugjr ~
I know that in Ontario Canada, all 3/4 ton pick-ups are considered commercial vehicles and registered accordingly. Further, they must use a certain license plate colour combo (black lettering on white background). You can have ones designated "farm" too.
However, in Ontario, you can transfer "personalized/vanity" plates to your pickup if you already have them (which I did) and you can request a special (free) sticker which is placed in the top left of the plate which reads "For Recreational Use only" ... meaning it is not for commercial use. This helps Canadian pickups from Ontario crossed the US border with less hassle. I don't know what the other provinces do. Perhaps NY state has similar rules. ~ Bugjr ~
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I live in NY and from what I remember reading is you can do passenger plates with a vehicle 5000lb GVWR or less. I could be wrong but I've never owned a truck with passenger plates.
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Here's the NYSDMV link. It's near the bottom. It's 5500lbs unladen weight. Pretty sure your truck weighs more than that.
NYS DMV - Vehicle Registration and Certificate of Title
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Interesting weights on a SD truck. I recently bought a truck camper for my 04 extended cab shortbox to haul and had my truck weighed before and after I loaded the camper. Before: 6680, full of fuel and myself in the driver's seat. After 10,120 fully loaded.
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Interesting. To transfer ownership to me when I bought my truck (see signature) I had to get it weighed. Since we've been thinking about adding a truck camper unit in the future, I weighed it with a full tank of diesel fuel, no body in it ... with the LEER cap on the bed. It came to 7,524 lbs. !!! Not much wiggle room to put a truck camper on (8,800 lbs. GVWR) let alone any camping gear. ~ Bugjr ~
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Having recently registered an 06 SuperCab Long Bed 4x4 with a 5.4, I have a little insight here. The vehicle "should" have commercial plates if it has an open bed. If you put a cap on it, it can be registered passenger. There are the Parkway restrictions, as well as parking restriction in NYC that would sway a person to register it one way or the other.
Mine is for personal use, not work. I use it mostly for play, and it is my daily driver. You won't find a cap or commercial plates on it, just really depends who you get at DMV when you register.
Mine is for personal use, not work. I use it mostly for play, and it is my daily driver. You won't find a cap or commercial plates on it, just really depends who you get at DMV when you register.
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The people at a DMV will often let you register it how you want, they aren't experts on your truck. My last truck, a Dodge 2500 SD, was registered for 3,000Kg by the dealer when he sold it to me, and it weighed close to that empty, so technically I was over-weight if I carried more than two passengers and a dog... I never caught on, I never got stopped, and I didn't figure it out till I had to register the truck in a different province. If you're registered for a certain GVW, or as a passenger vehicle, and you exceed the limits for that registration, you qualify for a ticket most places.
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