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Old Apr 29, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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Axle flip on TT

I have friend that purchased a new springdale TT that is 26' long. He has a lifted truck and would like more clearance on the TT. His springs are currently UNDER his axles and is wondering if he can just put the springs OVER the axle for 3" more clearance. They are straight al-ko 3500 axles.

I think it would be fine, but putting out there for a majority vote. The camper dealer wants to sell him a bunch of crap for a lift kit that I don't think is necessary. Thanks for the input

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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 03:16 AM
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He can "flip" them, But if he does, Make sure he also rotates the brakes back to their original position. They are designed to work one way. More pressure towards the front, Less to the back. If you flip them they'll work backwards and almost be useless. Anouther way is to weld taller shackles to the chassis. Either way would work and now would be a good time to look at the wheel bearings and brakes just to be safe.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:05 AM
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I would put a straight edge on the axles first and make sure they aren't bowed in the middle with the weight off of them.

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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
I would put a straight edge on the axles first and make sure they aren't bowed in the middle with the weight off of them.

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Some axles are bent in the middle for either camber or caster. Can't remember which. I have 2 Dexter #3500 axles and both are bowed in the middle but the trailer pulls straight. And this is on a 32 Ft. long unit weighing in at around #5500. Also, This is when I repacked the wheelbearings and replaced the hub seals and had the chassis on 4 jackstands.
 
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Originally Posted by Cruiseomatic
Some axles are bent in the middle for either camber or caster. Can't remember which. I have 2 Dexter #3500 axles and both are bowed in the middle but the trailer pulls straight. And this is on a 32 Ft. long unit weighing in at around #5500. Also, This is when I repacked the wheelbearings and replaced the hub seals and had the chassis on 4 jackstands.
It's for camber.

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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:21 AM
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Thanks. I knew it was for one of them just couldn't remember. Old age kicking in I guess.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Thanks. I knew it was for one of them just couldn't remember. Old age kicking in I guess.
It's called CRS

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Old Apr 30, 2013 | 12:20 PM
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I am definitely guilty of having that. Lol.
 
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You actually don't flip the axles. You slide them out from over the spring to underneath the spring. just cut the brake wires and re-splice. No flipping, no brake direction to worry about.
You actually gain over 4" of lift,
Kits cost appx $50.00
Dexter Trailer Springs Over-Under Conversion Kit Dexter Accessories and Parts K71-385-00
 
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Old May 2, 2013 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rvpuller
It's called CRS

Denny
You know CRS leads to CRAFT, right?

I already have Sometimers. At least, IIRC I do.

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Originally Posted by phantomphixer
You actually don't flip the axles. You slide them out from over the spring to underneath the spring. just cut the brake wires and re-splice. No flipping, no brake direction to worry about.
You actually gain over 4" of lift,
Kits cost appx $50.00
Dexter Trailer Springs Over-Under Conversion Kit Dexter Accessories and Parts K71-385-00
Nice!

So basically, grab two of those kits (one for each trailer axle), jack the trailer up and support it, drop the axle, cut the brake wires, move the axle, install the kit, splice the brake wires back on, and repeat for the second axle?

Very good!

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Awesome! Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by McFarlandkm
Awesome! Thanks
Be sure you check the axle diameter, they make them for 2 3/8" and 3" axles only any bigger and there isn't a kit that I could see.

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Old May 3, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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Here's a link to Dexter's info sheet on the over/under kits: http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6149609/f/Trail...Adjustment.pdf

And a link to the install sheet: http://l.b5z.net/i/u/6149609/f/Instr...59-551-00A.pdf

They do strongly recommend that you tack weld the spring pads in place. A number of my friends in the Sunline RV Club have done these mods, and they all said that if you don't weld yourself, you can do the whole assembly nice and tight and then tow the trailer to a welding shop. The tack welds are extra insurance that things won't move.
 
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Old May 6, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Just remember after the flip those pull down steps don't reach the ground. That last step down can be tricky.
 
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