OH CRAP!!!
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It's a bad design. A little bit of water should not cost a customer 10-13K. If it is water that's causing these to fail in the first place. If this happens to one person IT IS ONE PERSON TO MANY!
If it's not a problem why won't Ford share the data?
If it's not a problem why won't Ford share the data?
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But the ford 6.7 diesel, is not the only diesel that can cost an arm and a leg to repair. Bad fuel has cost many diesel owner big bucks, many many times before common rail diesels were even invented. Fueling up a diesel truck on gas, or crappy old farm fuel, etc, was never covered by warranty by any auto maker.
IMHO, what the newer trucks need, is a far better water detection system, not better filters. The filters they have work just fine, but with enough water, will start allowing it through. And if you have emulsifiers in the fuel, you probably can't filter the water out with any filter.
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A while back, I ran across some information on modifying HPFP's and changing the internal fuel flow somehow, so that it doesn't send metal shavings back into itself.
If only they made them from steel, instead of aluminum, you could tape some rare earth magnets around the fuel lines going to and from the HPFP, and they would hold any debris there.
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I agree. I would like to here from some one about the difficulty in doing this.
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Yes but in this case there was no mention of water or contamination just the price to fix it because of being out of warranty, it may have been slowly damaged over the 100,000 miles, so replacing it before it fails prbably would have prevented all the collateral damage.
What is the life span of this pump? Is there a number from Ford?
What is the life span of this pump? Is there a number from Ford?
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From: Boerne TX
Hey guys I'm diesel stupid, is the pump in the tank pushing or by the motor pulling? I'm guessing its by the motor, right? Is there any reason why they can't make a fitting that has a screen in it to keep the shrapnel from getting any farther.
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Yes, there are filters that can handle that pressure, but they are thousands of dollars. And the filter media is only good for about 100 PSI, so you also need to have a pressure differential sensor to shut the pump off, or theres no point.
There are many threads talking about this, and also about extra fuel filtration, but the problem is that none of the solutions seem to really provide solid, affordable protection.
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Yes but in this case there was no mention of water or contamination just the price to fix it because of being out of warranty, it may have been slowly damaged over the 100,000 miles, so replacing it before it fails prbably would have prevented all the collateral damage.
What is the life span of this pump? Is there a number from Ford?
What is the life span of this pump? Is there a number from Ford?
IMHO thats not a really productive way to deal with the problem.