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From this point...EVERYTHING I can reuse I will. Not gonna put any extra money into then I have to. It goes up for sale when it's running again.
What if you pump a bunch of man hours and money into it, and the same thing happens again before you sell it even?
I'm pretty sure a failed HPFP gets you a brand new fuel system; from the tank to the hood, if ford does it.
Since I'm sure they wouldn't spend all that money for nothing, there has to be some good reasoning behind it.
The high pressure fuel lines are "use once".
If you plan on replacing ONLY the HPFP, and putting it all back together, I don't know what would happen, but I'd guess it wouldn't be a very smart idea.
It's an expensive enough problem to not want to fix multiple times to get it right.
You better just buy a gas truck, GM and dodge common rail diesels also fail the same way, and cost huge amounts to fix.
The only bad part about ford, is that they seem to blame water more often for high pressure fuel pump failure.
Why did the OP's pump even fail?
If it was filled with gas by accident, you'd be in the same boat regardless of brand.
Welcome to common rail injection, if something goes wrong, it gets expensive before you even know something went wrong.
(PS A friends DMAX had an injector issue, ran perfectly, until the engine grenaded. Was quoted almost 20,000$ to replace and fix truck.)
Man does that suck. There's absolutely NO way I'll keep any newer truck past warranty. How can you possibly justify paying 45K for a truck, have it half paid for but be out of warranty AND be faced with the possibility of massive repair bills that could pop up at any time without any warning? Im interested to see what this will do to the used truck market in the coming years. I'd have to think that once people start to see these high dollar repair bills on a more regular basis as these newer trucks age, that people will shy away from buying one that's say 5 years old with 80k on it.
Man does that suck. There's absolutely NO way I'll keep any newer truck past warranty. How can you possibly justify paying 45K for a truck, have it half paid for but be out of warranty AND be faced with the possibility of massive repair bills that could pop up at any time without any warning? Im interested to see what this will do to the used truck market in the coming years. I'd have to think that once people start to see these high dollar repair bills on a more regular basis as these newer trucks age, that people will shy away from buying one that's say 5 years old with 80k on it.
Yes, it does really suck.
It sucks because if you're trucks several years old, the repair could cost as much as what the truck is worth.
The good news, is that the sky isn't falling; this doesn't happen every day. It still seems pretty rare, but enough to scare a lot of people, nonetheless.
I suppose it doesn't happen every day. But my '12 only has 22k on the clock and is on it's second turbo. So let's just say I'm not sure how much faith I have in these newer trucks at the moment.
I suppose it doesn't happen every day. But my '12 only has 22k on the clock and is on it's second turbo. So let's just say I'm not sure how much faith I have in these newer trucks at the moment.
Don't forget, trucks didn't just START breaking recently, sometimes things break. There are 6.7's with quite a bit of miles without any issues, the odd random issue is not out of the question.
My wifes chev equinox has almost 90,000 miles on it, and it's had around 20,000$ worth of repairs done to it (mostly warranty covered, and yes they tried to weasel out of it.), and it's considered a family low cost good vehicle, PS it also has a hard time breaking 20 MPG.
I will give you the fact that the repairs are more expensive but not more common. Before the days of internet truck forum you didn't hear about every single problem and failure, now you do. Think back to when your cousin told you his buddies 6.0 had a bad head gasket and you said WOW, never heard of that before, must a be rare occurance........... NOPE
If not for ther internet I would not know of a single fuel system problem on these trucks and there are thousands of them driving around here.
I think the worrying starts when you elect to remove your broken truck from the dealer without exploring all your insurance options. If it’s water in the fuel, my truck insurance covers me. If the pump has broken and no water is in the fuel, Ford or my Ford extended warranty should cover me. If everyone says that it’s not their fault, I need to chat with a lawyer or Ford directly and get to the root cause of the failure.
''Don't worry about it'' till it happens to YOU right, then you worry about it
Well, yes.
What can you do?
A ford 6.7 isn't the only vehicle capable of racking up 10,000$ + repair bills.
The pity isn't that ford tries to weasel out of warranty repairs, although that obviously isn't too cool.
The real shame is that a 60,000$ truck can be destroyed by a little bit of water in the fuel tank.
Every truck post warranty that is effected with this issue, stands a good chance of being tossed to the wrecker, or fixed up by shoddy mechanics and sold to the 1st poor ******* that forks out the cash not suspecting anything sinister... that is the true bad part about this.
"what if it happens to you?"
Well, those GM 6.5's burn up fuel pumps about as often as I take a leak when I drank too much beer, and people keep fixing them, and driving.
Peoples opinions don't always match reality; the 6.0 diesel trucks were tarnished by reputation, blowing head gaskets and needing 3000-4000$ to install after-market parts to make them reliable.
I know a few guys that have to pay 3000$ to GM for crappy heater core replacements in GM duramax diesels, but for some reason, that doesn't count.
I say drive it and stop worrying, or go buy an ecoboost, they rock.
I think the worrying starts when you elect to remove your broken truck from the dealer without exploring all your insurance options. If it’s water in the fuel, my truck insurance covers me. If the pump has broken and no water is in the fuel, Ford or my Ford extended warranty should cover me. If everyone says that it’s not their fault, I need to chat with a lawyer or Ford directly and get to the root cause of the failure.
What type of insurance do you have to cover the water in the fuel? I started doing some research and my insurance will not cover that. Is this a type of supplemental insurance you purchase like Aflac for the truck? Funny image :-)
When you guys refer to purchasing an extended warranty, are you talking about through Ford or another type of supplemental warranty through a third party.
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