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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 03:45 PM
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Looking at a couple of alternators now.

'95 Mustang w/5.0 - 130 amp - $154.99

'95 Taurus w/3.0 - 130amp - $119.99

Both lifetime warranty. What's the real difference? The only thing I see is the rear covers are different, front covers the same. Or is it priced that way just because it's for a Mustang???


Taurus:


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Mustang:

 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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If I had a 1990s parts catalog it'd be a bit easier to see if they're the same things.

Can't rely on pictures, though, need to compare part numbers for the different vehicles. Look up the replacement part numbers for the two cars and see if the part numbers are the same or not.

Pictures are often just stock images and are representative of what the thing generally looks like.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
If I had a 1990s parts catalog it'd be a bit easier to see if they're the same things.

Can't rely on pictures, though, need to compare part numbers for the different vehicles. Look up the replacement part numbers for the two cars and see if the part numbers are the same or not.
Part numbers are different, along with a $35 price difference. If the Taurus one will work, why not save the money? Unless the internals of the Mustang one are better, which I doubt.



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Pictures are often just stock images and are representative of what the thing generally looks like.
Didn't think of that.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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Covers aren't really different, just the clocking.



 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:09 PM
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Mustang owners are fanatic. They WILL pay for something intended for a 'Mustang'

How many people are that crazy about their Windstar or Sable???

I take it you decided you needed the 7" C-C variety?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Mustang owners are fanatic. They WILL pay for something intended for a 'Mustang'

How many people are that crazy about their Windstar or Sable???

I take it you decided you needed the 7" C-C variety?
Yep, the 7" is what the bracket was designed around.

That's what I thought. Going to pick one up for a Taurus 3.0 right now.

Update:

ArdWrknTrk - Thanks for the update. I believe I just got the 8:00 one. Works out perfect.


Fits like a glove.




Just need to put in a Heli-coil and mount.

For those wondering, '95 Taurus with the 3.0 and a/c.
 

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Yes, that is 8:00... so the 12:00 Mustang model would have been pointing wrong anyhow.

Looks Good!
Even if your serpentine setup doesn't use that bolt as a tensioner it's nice to be able to use a single wrench from the front to bolt the alternator in place.

Do you mind if I ask who manufactures it?

I'm sure your lights, fan and any other accessories will be thankful as well!
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Yes, that is 8:00... so the 12:00 Mustang model would have been wrong anyhow.

Looks Good!
Even if your serpentine setup doesn't use that bolt as a tensioner it's nice to be able to use a single wrench from the front to bolt the alternator in place.

That's what I was thinking too. The tensioner mounting bolt has to have a nut on the back side and I really don't like it, but it works.

Do you mind if I ask who manufactures it?

That would be me.

I'm sure your lights, fan and any other accessories will be thankful as well!
I've never had any problems with the 2G alts. yet, but why take the chance. Also with the extra electronics on board, it'll be nice to have that extra power.

I've read too that an alternator will last longer using 30% of its power than 60%, so that's another plus going with a higher amperage.

Next question, I have a 150A waterproof Buss circuit breaker to hook up. Seeing the alternator is supplying the power, that should be hooked up to the "batt" side and the "aux" side would go towards the battery, am I thinking correct on this? Basically wire it up in reverse?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Yes, 105A at idle is nice.

If it has any bias, it should be wired that way.
Current goes from the alternator towards the battery.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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Best single mod I've ever done on my truck. It took me longer to decide to cut the wire than to do the swap.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:16 AM
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This might be a good future project, I'm starting to get back into cb radio, and have an amplifier that
draws 45 amps. On my old Toyota 4x4 there was a kit to put a 100 amp chevy 1 wire on it, the off road guys liked them for running lights and winches.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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In addition to the clocking and rear cover differences, the voltage regulators are different. The Taurus alt has a regulator with 'load response control', where basically the alternator eases into charging over something like 2.5 seconds. The Mustang alt doesn't have LRC, so it just kicks right on. There are no problems using LRC regulators in place of non-LRC, but you can see problems the other way around.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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A lot of people who do this swap complain of squeal on startup.
I have linked the WAI-Transpo page describing the various regulator models in other threads.

I'm sure AlternatorMan would know more than I do about this.
From what I can find;

F785, Black, 14.6 set, no soft start.
F786, White, 14.5 set, 6 sec. soft start
F794, Gray, 14.6 set, no soft start.
F795, White, 14.6 set, 2.5 sec soft start
 

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