CC and OD not working
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CC and OD not working
Because they are both on the steering I am thinking these are connected. Searched and saw that the wires for OD will crack and break every once in a while. Will the same problems appear on the CC? The OD light does not work and the button does not work. The transmission does shift the correct number of times, but will not shift down to 3rd when pushed. The shifter needed the ring on the end so I ordered the kit with button and ring and changed the button. No change.
The CC just does not work at all. Pressing any button does not light the dash light nor does it work at all. I was thinking about changing the ring first and then going on to the button themselves. They do not look that worn though like they might have been used a lot. I am assuming that when you turn it on it does not turn the light on till you set a speed.
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2001 F350 CC with 7.3
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The CC just does not work at all. Pressing any button does not light the dash light nor does it work at all. I was thinking about changing the ring first and then going on to the button themselves. They do not look that worn though like they might have been used a lot. I am assuming that when you turn it on it does not turn the light on till you set a speed.
Any suggestions?
2001 F350 CC with 7.3
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The OD button problem is a broken wire where the wires enter the shift handle inside the steering column. Take the plastic cover off the column and you'll see the problem. The cruise issue is separate.
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Got out there today and fixed the OD. Light and switch work now. Did not replace the shifter, but just reran the wires through the shifter **** and arm. Only cost a few dollars as I had to go and get a roll of small speaker wire. It is joined so I tore the 2 half's apart and it was small enough. Only took about 30 minutes. Now If I can figure out the Cruise problem. I looked at the wires but saw nothing. My gut tells me to swap the donut first, what do you guys think? The thing does not do anything. Checked all fuses first thing.
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Well the clock spring comes to mind. I bet that they are not any fun to
replace. When you work on this BE VERY CAREFUL OF THE AIR BAG
If set off it will wreck you day. Your going to have to find the wires for the CC
and check them. Do you also have radio controls and do they work?
Do your self a favor and get a copy of the wiring diagram for you truck.
Also look up the procedures for dealing with the air bag system so you
stay safe.
Sean
replace. When you work on this BE VERY CAREFUL OF THE AIR BAG
If set off it will wreck you day. Your going to have to find the wires for the CC
and check them. Do you also have radio controls and do they work?
Do your self a favor and get a copy of the wiring diagram for you truck.
Also look up the procedures for dealing with the air bag system so you
stay safe.
Sean
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Well I am thinking that the bag just unscrews from the back and unplugs. I am at least hoping so. Yea I can see that ruining your day. Especially if you are setting in the drivers seat.
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check the wiring on your master, ford had a recall and added a jumper harness onto the factory cc sensor/pigtail on the master with inline fuses.
also does your torque converter lock? if it doesnt you might have something wrong in the brake circuitry making the truck think your pushing the brake pedal.
I bought a 2000 7.3l with a zf6 no torque converter but I couldnt figure out why cruise didnt work, the PO did his own brake controller wire hack job and wired the brake to the hot so the truck thought it was constantly braking, figured it out and cruise worked again
also does your torque converter lock? if it doesnt you might have something wrong in the brake circuitry making the truck think your pushing the brake pedal.
I bought a 2000 7.3l with a zf6 no torque converter but I couldnt figure out why cruise didnt work, the PO did his own brake controller wire hack job and wired the brake to the hot so the truck thought it was constantly braking, figured it out and cruise worked again
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check the wiring on your master, ford had a recall and added a jumper harness onto the factory cc sensor/pigtail on the master with inline fuses.
also does your torque converter lock? if it doesnt you might have something wrong in the brake circuitry making the truck think your pushing the brake pedal.
I bought a 2000 7.3l with a zf6 no torque converter but I couldnt figure out why cruise didnt work, the PO did his own brake controller wire hack job and wired the brake to the hot so the truck thought it was constantly braking, figured it out and cruise worked again
also does your torque converter lock? if it doesnt you might have something wrong in the brake circuitry making the truck think your pushing the brake pedal.
I bought a 2000 7.3l with a zf6 no torque converter but I couldnt figure out why cruise didnt work, the PO did his own brake controller wire hack job and wired the brake to the hot so the truck thought it was constantly braking, figured it out and cruise worked again
I found a diagnostic test in a search of posts and when I tried no CC light came on. Then I just turned on the key several times and no light either. I would have thought it would come on when you started the truck. I was going to start with the clock spring, but I will check the brake stuff first. I have tried turning on the CC and then setting the speed. That does not work at all. But the CC light never turning on is something that is baffling me. It should at least flash when turning on the truck shouldn't it?
ADDED: Just went out and checked under the hood and under the dash and saw no inline fuses.
Last edited by STEVES68NOVA; Feb 23, 2013 at 01:47 PM. Reason: Checked fuses
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Missed your reply and just found this. Can you tell me what I should be looking for?
I found a diagnostic test in a search of posts and when I tried no CC light came on. Then I just turned on the key several times and no light either. I would have thought it would come on when you started the truck. I was going to start with the clock spring, but I will check the brake stuff first. I have tried turning on the CC and then setting the speed. That does not work at all. But the CC light never turning on is something that is baffling me. It should at least flash when turning on the truck shouldn't it?
ADDED: Just went out and checked under the hood and under the dash and saw no inline fuses.
I found a diagnostic test in a search of posts and when I tried no CC light came on. Then I just turned on the key several times and no light either. I would have thought it would come on when you started the truck. I was going to start with the clock spring, but I will check the brake stuff first. I have tried turning on the CC and then setting the speed. That does not work at all. But the CC light never turning on is something that is baffling me. It should at least flash when turning on the truck shouldn't it?
ADDED: Just went out and checked under the hood and under the dash and saw no inline fuses.
on my 2000 7.3l when the trailer brake wiring was messed up my trucks diag didnt work either, but like I said my truck was a zf6 so if you had some type of issue where the truck thought the brake pedal is being applied you would have no torque converter lockup
I have one of the spare harnesses in my toolbox and try to post a pic on here, it has a part number on it, basically they did this because sometimes brake fluid would leak into the cruise control sensor and short out the circuit, so they made a jumper with 1 or 2 fuses in it (2 amp iirc)
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If you did the cc diag. test the light shouldve come on.
on my 2000 7.3l when the trailer brake wiring was messed up my trucks diag didnt work either, but like I said my truck was a zf6 so if you had some type of issue where the truck thought the brake pedal is being applied you would have no torque converter lockup
I have one of the spare harnesses in my toolbox and try to post a pic on here, it has a part number on it, basically they did this because sometimes brake fluid would leak into the cruise control sensor and short out the circuit, so they made a jumper with 1 or 2 fuses in it (2 amp iirc)
on my 2000 7.3l when the trailer brake wiring was messed up my trucks diag didnt work either, but like I said my truck was a zf6 so if you had some type of issue where the truck thought the brake pedal is being applied you would have no torque converter lockup
I have one of the spare harnesses in my toolbox and try to post a pic on here, it has a part number on it, basically they did this because sometimes brake fluid would leak into the cruise control sensor and short out the circuit, so they made a jumper with 1 or 2 fuses in it (2 amp iirc)
I really don't know how to tell if the Torque Converter locks up or not.
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I have one of the spare harnesses in my toolbox and try to post a pic on here, it has a part number on it, basically they did this because sometimes brake fluid would leak into the cruise control sensor and short out the circuit, so they made a jumper with 1 or 2 fuses in it (2 amp iirc)
Here's the replacement sensor:
I diagnoses by checking for continuity at the harness. There was none, but there was brake fluid which meant that the sensor had failed. Replaced it with the one I linked above and have had normal cruise operation since. It's a common failure and that's where I'd start.
Another common failure is the switch itself in the steering wheel. But check the switch on the master cylinder first!
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The jumper exists not to prevent the failure of the sensor, but rather to prevent the truck from catching on fire if it does. The idea is that the fuses will blow before a short occurs that would start a fire.
Here's the replacement sensor:
Motorcraft SW-6350 Brake Repair Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive
I diagnoses by checking for continuity at the harness. There was none, but there was brake fluid which meant that the sensor had failed. Replaced it with the one I linked above and have had normal cruise operation since. It's a common failure and that's where I'd start.
Another common failure is the switch itself in the steering wheel. But check the switch on the master cylinder first!
Here's the replacement sensor:
Motorcraft SW-6350 Brake Repair Kit : Amazon.com : Automotive
I diagnoses by checking for continuity at the harness. There was none, but there was brake fluid which meant that the sensor had failed. Replaced it with the one I linked above and have had normal cruise operation since. It's a common failure and that's where I'd start.
Another common failure is the switch itself in the steering wheel. But check the switch on the master cylinder first!
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Did you just give them your vin number? I have a 2000 7.3 that I don't think the recall was ever done on. Will they still do it?
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Yes, they will still do the recall, if it has not been done.
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Yes I just gave them the VIN # and they looked it up. Told me it had not been done and told me to just come to the quick lane when I came in as they do recalls. I did so and they had me come back as the kit was on back order. (Don't know why the guy didn't tell me that when I called). After a week the lady called me and told me they had gotten 30 kits in and to come in at my leisure. I went today and they put the kit on and it fixed my cruise control. As you can guess I was very very happy! So was my wife as I didn't have to spend money. I am guessing that the reason the light did not come on at all when I started the truck was because there was an open circuit. All the kit looked like when the guy walked through was a wire and a switch looking thing.
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OK, since you guys have helped me fix my other problems I got a couple of sall ones. On my drivers door almost to the bottom is a light which lights up when you open the door. Is the cover to this light the same on all doors from 1999 to 2006? Or maybe later.
Also the arm rest on my captain chair drivers side just falls down. It is supposed to allow you to put your arm on it, but it does not. I can live without it but would be nice to have.
Also the arm rest on my captain chair drivers side just falls down. It is supposed to allow you to put your arm on it, but it does not. I can live without it but would be nice to have.
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