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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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C6 AUTOMATIC

HI HAVE A 1965 CAMPER SPECIAL RANGER ITS 352 WITH CRUISO-O -MATIC AND I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING IN A C6,A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT COLUMN OPERATED LIKE MY COM IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS, ALSO I WOULD NEED TO FIT A TRANS COOLER ANY RECOMMENDATIONS,WHAT ABOUT SPEEDO DRIVE/ PROP-SHAFT /YOKES/ELECTRICAL SWITCHES ETC IS THERE ANYTHING I FORGOT DOES ANYONE HAVE PART NUMBERS FOR WHAT IS REQUIRED,MANY THANKS,
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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column-operated: i would think this is possible. you may need some sort of universal linkage (Lokar?). Keep in mind that the shift pattern is different between the COM and the C6.

trans cooler: lots of options here. personally, i'd snag one out of a junkyard and plumb it in.

electrical switches: on the C6,i think the neutral safety switch is located on the transmission, instead of on the column under the dash.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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i know on my 66 i need to come up with a longer drive shaft and i put a newer radiator in mine with the cooler in it and just reran the cooler lines to the front of the truck have not put the c6 in yet next project on my list
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 02:32 AM
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thanks for the advice, trying to find a longer propshaft here in nz would be a mission,so maybe i will stick with the COM
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rustywheel68
Electrical switches: on the C6, I think the F100/350 neutral safety switch (NSS) is located on the transmission beginning in 1978.
C7TZ-7A247-A .. NSS ~ Located on Steering Column (Motorcraft SW-600) / Obsolete ~ Available from autoparts stores.

Applications: 1967/77 F100/350 all I-6/V8 & all A/T's.
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DOTZ-7B097-B (replaced C5TZ-7B097-A) .. NSS Selector Lever / Obsolete ~ 3,000 + available NOS

Snaps onto shift tube thru hole in steering column outer shroud. Knife blade end inserts into NSS

Applications: 1965/77 F100/350.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by yargnitram
thanks for the advice, trying to find a longer propshaft here in nz would be a mission,so maybe i will stick with the COM

you can have one made to fit as well thats what i am going to do with mine
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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I had one made and it cost me around $200 if I remember correctly. Got rid of the 2 piece drive shaft and went with a 1 piece drive shaft. Simpler, less trouble.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by yargnitram
HI HAVE A 1965 CAMPER SPECIAL RANGER ITS 352 WITH CRUISO-O -MATIC AND I WAS THINKING OF PUTTING IN A C6,A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT COLUMN OPERATED LIKE MY COM IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO THIS, THANKS,
GARY AUCKLAND.NZ
With regard to the column shift, the COM has three slots for the forward gears - white dot, green dot & L. Of course you drive it in the "green" dot.

On the C6, you have D, 2, 1. It seems to me that if the shift lever on the C6 is comparable to the one on your COM, you could just hook it up and place your gear selector in the "white" dot for drive. Perhaps someone can confirm that.
I'm applying that same logic to the AOD I'm about to install in my truck. The Mustang GT donor shifter shows OD, D, L. I'm modifying the shift lever on the trans to simulate the COM so I should be able to place my column shift selector in the "white" dot for OD. I want to avoid putting the ugly Mustang shifter in my floor! Will let you know if it works.

Randy
 
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 37 Ford guy
With regard to the column shift, the COM has three slots for the forward gears - white dot, green dot & L.

On the C6 (*), you have PRND21 / It seems to me that if the shift lever on the C6 is comparable to the one on your COM, you could just hook it up and place your gear selector in the "white" dot for drive.
No such thing as a white dot. Take a close look at your dial, one of the two green dots has faded.

C5TZ-7B033-A .. Shift Indicator Dial ~ Two GREEN Dots, one is larger than the other / Obsolete, not reproduced.

Original applications: 1965/66 F100/250 240/300 C4 / 1965/66 F100/350 352 MX Cruise-O-Matic // 1965/66 F350 240/300 C4/MX used a different two green dot dial (C5TZ-7B033-C).
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C7TZ-7B033-E .. Shift Indicator Dial: PRND21 / Reproduced.

Original applications: 1967 F100/350 *C4/MX Cruise-O-Matic / 1968/72 F100/250 C4/C6 / 1968/72 F350 C6 & MX Cruise-O-Matic (300 I-6 only).

Since C5TZ-7B033-A is obsolete, not reproduced, the repop sellers list C7TZ-7B033-E for 1965/66's instead.
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1973/77 F100/350: The shift collar (D5TZ-7228-A) is different, has a slot in it for a plastic shift dial pointer (D3TZ-7A110-A).

This shift collar is the "Service Part Replacement" for the 1965/72 shift collar and is available from Ford, includes the pointer.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No such thing as a white dot. Take a close look at your dial, one of the two green dots has faded.

C5TZ-7B033-A .. Shift Indicator Dial ~ Two GREEN Dots, one is larger than the other / Obsolete, not reproduced.

Original applications: 1965/66 F100/250 240/300 C4 / 1965/66 F100/350 352 MX Cruise-O-Matic // 1965/66 F350 240/300 C4/MX used a different two green dot dial (C5TZ-7B033-C).
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C7TZ-7B033-E .. Shift Indicator Dial: PRND21 / Reproduced.

Original applications: 1967 F100/350 *C4/MX Cruise-O-Matic / 1968/72 F100/250 C4/C6 / 1968/72 F350 C6 & MX Cruise-O-Matic (300 I-6 only).

Since C5TZ-7B033-A is obsolete, not reproduced, the repop sellers list C7TZ-7B033-E for 1965/66's instead.
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1973/77 F100/350: The shift collar (D5TZ-7228-A) is different, has a slot in it for a plastic shift dial pointer (D3TZ-7A110-A).

This shift collar is the "Service Part Replacement" for the 1965/72 shift collar and is available from Ford, includes the pointer.
Thanks for the clarification, Bill, but I would question whether the "white" "Drive" dot on my prindle was ever green....


But the whole point of my post was not about the color of the dot. I was merely trying to suggest to the OP that since there are 3 forward gear selections to the right of Neutral on his COM column and 3 forward gear selections to the right of Neutral on a later model truck with C6, he should be able to use his original column when converting to a C6 trans and simply place the gear selector in a different slot for "Drive".
 
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rustywheel68
column-operated: i would think this is possible. you may need some sort of universal linkage (Lokar?). Keep in mind that the shift pattern is different between the COM and the C6.

trans cooler: lots of options here. personally, i'd snag one out of a junkyard and plumb it in.

electrical switches: on the C6,i think the neutral safety switch is located on the transmission, instead of on the column under the dash.
I would avoid using a old trans cooler from the yard. You never know what kind of shape it is really in. Just a universal kit will be fine. $30-40 is cheap insurance.

Originally Posted by customcab66
i know on my 66 i need to come up with a longer drive shaft and i put a newer radiator in mine with the cooler in it and just reran the cooler lines to the front of the truck have not put the c6 in yet next project on my list
Not the worst idea, but unless you really want to change the radiator, just use a kit that you can attach to your radiator.

Originally Posted by yargnitram
thanks for the advice, trying to find a longer propshaft here in nz would be a mission,so maybe i will stick with the COM
You just need to have your front driveshaft shortened. Any competent machine shop can handle that.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 37 Ford guy
Thanks for the clarification, Bill, but I would question whether the "white" "Drive" dot on my prindle was ever green....


But the whole point of my post was not about the color of the dot. I was merely trying to suggest to the OP that since there are 3 forward gear selections to the right of Neutral on his COM column and 3 forward gear selections to the right of Neutral on a later model truck with C6, he should be able to use his original column when converting to a C6 trans and simply place the gear selector in a different slot for "Drive".
The center of the white dot was originally green.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2013 | 09:18 PM
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The center of the white dot was originally green.
I don't think so. That white dot looks exactly like the one on N, R & P.....and L.
 
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"Bill is correct", the Coorect Drive position is the Green Dot D, the first is 2nd gear, L is obvious.
 
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Originally Posted by Redmanbob
"Bill is correct", the Coorect Drive position is the Green Dot D, the first is 2nd gear, L is obvious.
Thanks, redman, but I already stated that above. The "dot" in question is the first one to the right of neutral, which is "white" on my truck. Bill is saying that one is supposed to be green also, only smaller. I'm saying that particular dot on mine shows no signs of ever being green. What about yours?
 
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