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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 37 Ford guy
The "dot" in question is the first one to the right of neutral, which is "white" on my truck. Bill is saying that one is supposed to be green also, only smaller.

I'm saying that particular dot on mine shows no signs of ever being green. What about yours?
It was green originally, and two green dot shift dials were also used on 1961/64 Galaxie's, of which I've owned 30. Only one, a 1963 Galaxie 500 ragtop 406, had a 4 speed.

Ask 'gee willikers' inre to the 1965/66 two green dot shift dials, as he has mentioned them countless times.

Take a look-see in your 1965 owners manual, see what it sez about this dial. I'd look, but I haven't any, gave my last one away. Can't recall if it's this manual, or the car manual that has a pic of the two green dots.

btw: I bought the '63 ragtop in 1975 from Gordie's Used Cars at 2525 Lincoln Blvd in S/M for 500 bucks. As I recall, that's not too far away from your residencia.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
It was green originally, and two green dot shift dials were also used on 1961/64 352/390 Galaxie's, of which I've owned 30. Only one, a 1963 Galaxie 500 ragtop 406, had a 4 speed.

Ask 'gee willikers' inre to the 1965/66 two green dot shift dials, as he has mentioned them countless times.

Take a look-see in your 1965 owners manual, see what it sez about this dial. I'd look, but I haven't any, gave my last one away. Can't recall if it's this manual, or the car manual that has a pic of the two green dots.

btw: I bought the '63 ragtop in 1975 from Gordie's Used Cars at 2525 Lincoln Blvd in S/M for 500 bucks. As I recall, that's not too far away from your residencia.
The manual is in my truck. I'll look at it tomorrow, but I can assure you the indicator on my truck only has ONE green dot and that's all it ever had. Even the replacement indicators for 65/66 Ford cars from Carpenter only have ONE green dot.
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....4o~Z5Z5Z515621

Of course, all of this is a complete diversion from what the original poster wanted to know!
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 37 Ford guy
The manual is in my truck. I'll look at it tomorrow, but I can assure you the indicator on my truck only has ONE green dot and that's all it ever had.
You can only say that if you bought the truck new. But you didn't and the green dot has faded away.

Look at the center of that white dot, why would it be dished in, if the dot was only white?

Even the replacement indicators for 65/66 Ford cars from Carpenter only have ONE green dot.
http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb....4o~Z5Z5Z515621

Of course, all of this is a complete diversion from what the original poster wanted to know!
Linkee no workee.

Dunno about 1965/66 cars, but I do know about 1961/64's, not the same dial as 1965/66. And 1966's could have a C4, C6, FX, or MX Cruise-O.

C5TZ-7B033-A 1965/66 truck two green dot dial is obsolete and no one has any. If I could find one, I'd buy it, drive to S/M and personally install it on your truck. Then swing by my barber on Montana and get a hair cut

As I said, jowilker (gee willikers) has mentioned the two green dot dial countless times. Wanna argue with him? I'm a puddy tat in comparison.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Mine has only one Green Dot, and it is in the center of a larger white dot.

All of the others are white, and those white dots are smaller. The Green Dot is
in the middle of a larger white dot than the other white dots...see attached photo.

Why would they only make one of the White dots larger than the other, other than to accommodate the
green dot?

None of my other white dots have a dimple in them??

Nothing on my shift indicator has faded...the green is still green.
Mine is original...along with the 24,952 miles on the speedo.
Why would only one Green Dot fade away yet the other is intact?
What would the point be in having two green dots? I thought the one
Green Dot was the indicator that it starts you in 1st gear, whereas the other
White Dot to the left starts you in 2nd, or of course low.

Oh boy...what have I done?

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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Well, to beat this dead horse one more time....

There are indentations on the back side of the shift indicator:


However, the ONLY way for "GREEN" to appear on the front side, the GREEN paint would have had to be in the hole first! The "dot in question" is clearly white and has always been white, just like all the other "WHITE" dots on this dial.


In reviewing the 1965 manual that you graciously bequeathed to me, there are no color pictures and no references to GREEN dots....







So, with all due respect, if you want to insist there were 2 GREEN dots, you will have to post up some pics.....
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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You just answered the question by posting these owners manual pics.

What I see is: The small dot has a dark center, so it's green. Large dot is all dark.

How many of these trucks were garaged? Very few. How many of y'all bought one new? Next to no one.

Sun causes things to fade, like the small green dot. And pray tell, why would its center be dished, if it was all white?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 06:14 PM
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Ok, I can see this one is pointless...

How in the heck could only one green dot fade?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
You just answered the question by posting these owners manual pics.

What I see is: The small dot has a dark center, so it's green. Large dot is all dark.Read the text. The one you're calling the "small dot" is the Drive position and the ONLY green dot on this indicator.

How many of these trucks were garaged? Very few. How many of y'all bought one new? Next to no one.

Sun causes things to fade, like the small green dot. And pray tell, why would its center be dished, if it was all white? If you actually looked at my pics, you would see they are "dished out" from the back side. The only way GREEN paint would show on the front side is if it went in the hole first! But, alas, there is nothing but white paint in the hole! I wonder why that is......

Guess again. You can tell nothing from a diagram in this manual. The small dot is the exact same color as the dots on P, R N & L!!! There was no need to explain them in the manual.

Until you post some ACTUAL PICS of an indicator with TWO GREEN DOTS, I will stand by my assertion that there is ONLY ONE GREEN DOT!!! Prove it or continue to delude yourself! GeeWilikers hasn't even come to your defense yet!


And NO GREEN SHARPIES are allowed to "doctor" the photo!!!!
 
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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Hey Randy,
I found this one at my neighbors house.

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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 08:44 AM
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Hey Randy,
I found this one at my neighbors house.

JBone
I'm GREEN with envy!!!!!
 
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 08:54 AM
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Hey Yargnitram,
I'm sorry this thread has turned into a pissing contest over how many green dots are on the COM shift indicator. My whole point in my first post was to suggest your COM steering column & shift linkage will probably work fine with the C6 trans if you use the first slot to the right of Neutral for the Drive position.

As for the potential drive shaft issues, I guess that depends on the source of your C6 and what kind of tail shaft it has, but that should be easily remedied.

Depending on the condition of your existing COM and how you use the truck, the swap may or may not be worth the effort.

In the meantime, how many green dots does your shift indicator have???

Best!!
Randy
 
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 37 Ford guy
Hey Yargnitram,
I'm sorry this thread has turned into a pissing contest over how many green dots are on the COM shift indicator. My whole point in my first post was to suggest your COM steering column & shift linkage will probably work fine with the C6 trans if you use the first slot to the right of Neutral for the Drive position.

As for the potential drive shaft issues, I guess that depends on the source of your C6 and what kind of tail shaft it has, but that should be easily remedied.

Depending on the condition of your existing COM and how you use the truck, the swap may or may not be worth the effort.

In the meantime, how many green dots does your shift indicator have???

Best!!
Randy


Pissing contest? I should say so...

I put one in my '65 about 10 years ago. I have a 2 piece drive shaft and the primary shaft needed to be shortened about 2 1/4" IIRC. I did it myself. I also needed to move the rear cross member an equal amount. I am using the original column and have installed a later model indicator...no friggin green dots. I used an aftermarket cooler and did not tie it into the radiator, I couldn't since mine is original.
I've had no problems with it and have not been necessarily nice to it. I used to tow a 5th wheel camper and now use it for firewood duty.
 
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many thanks for all your replies and i will check how many green dots i have
 
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Cant you put the valve body from the C-6 into the COM and accomplish the same thing?
 
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Cant you put the valve body from the C-6 into the COM and accomplish the same thing?
No, two completely different valve body's.
 
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