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I have a 96 F150 with the 4r70w I bought with a bad trans. I have an aod from my 93 can I use this trans and swap in a MT computer? Also wondering since the 5.0 HO in my truck has the same firing order will the computer run my rebuilt 351 from my 93.
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Is the 93 trans a truck trans if so its the E4OD and will need the comp for that trans also check your electrical plugs for both trans, If I remember rite they are different also. And yes your comp will run the 351w, did your truck truck come with a mass air setup, if so you will be fine to swap over the 351w.
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Sorry, that's incorrect. AODs and E4ODs were offered side-by-side.
Your 96 is OBD-II which makes things tricky, as the OBD-II computer uses a different electrical architecture and won't plug into the older style computers. I assume there were MT OBD-II F-150 5.0 computers made, but I've never really seen one.
If you swap the 351 into the '96, you'll need to transfer crank position sensor, crank pulley, crank encoder wheel and possibly the front cover if the '93 doesn't have a provision to mount the sensor.
Your 96 is OBD-II which makes things tricky, as the OBD-II computer uses a different electrical architecture and won't plug into the older style computers. I assume there were MT OBD-II F-150 5.0 computers made, but I've never really seen one.
If you swap the 351 into the '96, you'll need to transfer crank position sensor, crank pulley, crank encoder wheel and possibly the front cover if the '93 doesn't have a provision to mount the sensor.
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The AOD was never offered behind a 351 in a truck so that's an E4OD you have there, so you'll need an OBD2 5.8/E4OD computer if that even exists and a 5.8 specific crank balancer with the tone ring. You may be better off fixing the 4R70w and then you can use either motor without changing the computer.
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The AOD(non electric) was not used in the trucks, They had an AODE for a bit which is similar to the 4R70W, and the E4OD. The non electric AOD was used in cars up to 93. So not sure what you have there.
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OK that makes sense, you can ignore all our misguided ramblings then and get back to your hunt for a manual trans obd2 EEC.
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No it's the AODE that was never used in trucks, it's got nothing in common with the 4R70w either since it's really just a mechanical AOD with an electrically locking torque converter. This is the trans that appeared in cars for a short time and I know this partially because some of the early 5.0 Mustang EECs have a control parameter for torque converter lockup but nothing else trans related.
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No it's the AODE that was never used in trucks, it's got nothing in common with the 4R70w either since it's really just a mechanical AOD with an electrically locking torque converter. This is the trans that appeared in cars for a short time and I know this partially because some of the early 5.0 Mustang EECs have a control parameter for torque converter lockup but nothing else trans related.
The AOD on the other hand has dual input shafts, and 4th gets directly coupled to the engine via the secondary input shaft.
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Lots of people and websites mistakenly use 4R70w and AODE as interchangeable names for the same trans, but the fact is there was an actual Ford 4-speed auto trans than had no electronic controls except for TC lockup and it was known as the AOD-E or AODE. If it's fully electronic and fullsize car or truck compatible it's a 4R70w or E4OD.
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Lots of people and websites mistakenly use 4R70w and AODE as interchangeable names for the same trans, but the fact is there was an actual Ford 4-speed auto trans than had no electronic controls except for TC lockup and it was known as the AOD-E or AODE. If it's fully electronic and fullsize car or truck compatible it's a 4R70w or E4OD.
The only Ford RWD automatic that only has an electronic converter lockup is the A4LD. That was used in the early Rangers and Explorers.
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