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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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Ignition Pick-up Module

Rebuilding a distributor for the 460 (Duraspark) and need a pick-up module.

These are the ones available locally



-Napa
ECH-MP700 - Echlin - $38.99

-Car Quest
22063 - ?? Brand - $25.99
52-5555 - ?? Brand - $43.04

-AutoZone
F107 - Wells - $23.99

-O'Reilly
ME12 - BWD - $27.99

-Summit Racing
LX-204 - Standard Motor Products - $39.95


What experience have you had with these brands? Which one is the best? I would like to keep it local so if there's any problems, it's just down the road to exchange (not returning by mail).

I can get a Motorcraft from Rock auto, but it's $45.77 plus $8.98 shipping ($54.77 total). I also called my local Ford parts counter and they say it's not available anymore.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:09 PM
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I also called my local Ford parts counter and they say it's not available anymore.
I've had the Ford parts counter tell me the same thing, even if the part IS avaliable.

Take or have the part number handy for them to look up, it will save you from this scenerio.

I usually don't even bother going to the dealer anymore and buy parts from a motorcraft supplier, directly.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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I usually use old motorcraft modules I have accumulated from various trucks I have scrapped, so I only have experience with one new module from any retail store.

Bought one from NAPA for a 76 I had and it was bad out of the box. They did have great costumer service and offered to exchange it for a new module, but I opted to get my money back and use a factory motorcraft module I pulled from a parts truck instead.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 04:46 AM
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I used the SMP pick-up when I recurved my Distributor.
For the same reason as you. It was available at my local auto parts store.

I have had good experience with NAPA and Carquest parts.
The other big chain stores, not so much...
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 81ChopTop
Rebuilding a distributor for the 460 (Duraspark) and need a pick-up module. These are the ones available locally

-Napa
ECH-MP700 - Echlin - $38.99

-Car Quest
22063 - ?? Brand - $25.99
52-5555 - ?? Brand - $43.04

-AutoZone
F107 - Wells - $23.99

-O'Reilly
ME12 - BWD - $27.99

-Summit Racing
LX-204 - Standard Motor Products - $39.95

I can get a Motorcraft from Rock auto, but it's $45.77 plus $8.98 shipping ($54.77 total). I also called my local Ford parts counter and they say it's not available anymore.
1981 F100 with a swapped 460: No such thing as a pick-up module...what are you referring to, an ignition module or a magnetic pickup coil?

And how do you know the above are correct, since 460's were not available in F100's after 1976?

Please, when asking questions, list all the pertinent info. If this is the ignition module you want, look above where the wires feed out for a colored plastic square used to ID them.

1976/97: The most common module has a blue plastic square.
Originally Posted by 81ChopTop
I called my local Ford parts counter and they say it's not available anymore.
It wasn't available in 1981 either, cuz there's no such thing as a 1981 F100 w/a 460!
Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
Take or have the part number handy for them to look up.
Where's the OP supposed to get the part number, since it's not marked on parts after 1956?

You have the parts catalog, so you could give it to him. Lotsa luck looking up the application!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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C'mon, Bill... cranky again?

Google the NAPA number, he's looking for the distributor pickup coil thing. Yeah, what he said is confusing (is a pickup a pickup coil or pickup truck, etc.) and he's asking for people's opinions on those things.

Lots of people here do lots of swapping of parts and Chop is pretty good (should see the dash he's building, and boy will you complain when he comes asking about iPod and MP3-player hookups for it ) and the "correct" replacement part doesn't necessarily have to be what Ford said it should be for whatever vehicle the part or component has been installed into.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:30 AM
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I was just looking at the build thread in his sig.
Amazing talent going into that!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ctubutis
C'mon, Bill... cranky again?

Google the NAPA number, he's looking for the distributor pickup coil thing. Yeah, what he said is confusing (is a pickup a pickup coil or pickup truck, etc.) and he's asking for people's opinions on those things.
Look at it from my side, kiddo. People complaining about the partsguy saying the part is unavailable. Probably said that, simply because there's no application for it!

Lots of people swap parts, but what is the application for the pickup coil since no F100 came w/a 460 after 1976?

The OP failed to list any info inre to what the dizzy came from.

Hope he records what all the parts he swapped came from, cuz if he doesn't and something fails, he'll be up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

Is the dizzy from a 1974/79: D4PZ-12A112-A .. Stator aka Magnetic Pickup Coil (Motorcraft DU-1A) / MSRP: $86.56 / FTE sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $52.37.

Or is it from a 1980 or later?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:12 AM
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There is a difference between an internal balance and external balance block?
Or did the earlier DSII distributors have a different cap adapter? or something..
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
There is a difference between an internal balance and external balance block?
Or did the earlier DSII distributors have a different cap adapter? or something..
Some of the earlier systems had a different cap and adapter.

The early DS-I and DS-II distributor caps that resembled the old "Point and condenser type" had a tendencey to misfire and try to fire more than one plug at once on occation, due to increased spark.

The caps were redesigned and made larger in circumfrence, so that type of misfiring wouldn't occur.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 81-F-150-Explorer
Some of the earlier systems had a different cap and adapter. No adapter until 1977.

The early DS-I and DS-II distributor caps that resembled old "Point and condenser type" had a tendencey to misfire and try to fire more than one plug at once on occation, due to increased spark.

The caps were redesigned and made larger in circumfrence in 1977, so that type of misfiring wouldn't occur.
1977 and later caps have male ends and there's a plastic adapter below the cap that the clips are attached to. Both part numbers have been replaced a gazillion times.

1975/76 V8: D5AZ-12106-A cap, blue in color, replaced the H/D & hipo cap: B7AZ-12106-A that was tan.

1957/74 V8: B7A-12106-A cap, black in color.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Both part numbers have been replaced a gazillion times.
You would certainly be the one to know that!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Look at it from my side, kiddo. People complaining about the partsguy saying the part is unavailable. Probably said that, simply because there's no application for it!

Lots of people swap parts, but what is the application for the pickup coil since no F100 came w/a 460 after 1976?

The OP failed to list any info inre to what the dizzy came from.



Is the dizzy from a 1974/79: D4PZ-12A112-A .. Stator aka Magnetic Pickup Coil (Motorcraft DU-1A) / MSRP: $86.56 / FTE sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $52.37.

Or is it from a 1980 or later?


NumberDummy - The part #'s I posted is what I need. I actually looked up parts for several vehicles (that had factory 460s) and found they are the same for what I need. The result was for a '83 truck (which is what the dizzy is out of). Blue tab on the module. I didn't think since I had already researched and listed the part #s, that I should still list all the details. I'll keep that in mind for next time. I understand where you are coming from, so no harm done. I worked in parts for a few years too and know how frustrating it can be when somebody doesn't know what they are talking about, or doesn't give you the info you need. I'm sure, like you, we both have plenty of stories about that.

As for calling the Ford counter for the part, he was only given the info for what the part was from, nothing was said about the engine being swapped or anything along that lines. Sometimes it's better to leave that out of the conversation.



Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Hope he records what all the parts he swapped came from, cuz if he doesn't and something fails, he'll be up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

I have a spreadsheet that I keep tract of everything that is used in building the truck. All part #s, applications, etc... IF, and that's a huge if, I ever sell the truck, that sheet (which will be like gold for the next owner) will go with the truck, along with the new wiring schematics, etc..

ctubutis - for the mp3 hook-up, that'll be built into the radio I get for it.


This dizzy will have the larger cap with the adapter. I won't run the small one for the reasons stated.

Thanks for all the replies.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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I've had good luck also, with the NAPA parts..(echlin).

Like you said, availability and local....Trav..
 
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