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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:00 PM
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Sounds like your getting the hang of it though Glenn. Just another battle wound. haha
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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I had a head banging day. It took me four hours to do three cylinders, LOL. I had a hard time with the keepers, of all things. After dropping two and one flying across the room I was ready to walk. Then I dropped a retainer down the side of the motor and it took me a half hour to find it. OK, OK, I'm not to coordinated. After I finally learned how to measure with Aaron mic, the keepers had to be put in and taken out twice per spring. Anyway, all three cylinders measured 1.844 to 1.850. Then you subtract .045 for the valve stem seal and a .030 shim and another .015 shim to arrive at the goal of 1.750 to 1.760 which gives 130 lbs. That's what I read any way. Several 'how too's' I read just said to put in a .030 shim and be done with it. Jake said a second time I talked to him to just use a .030 shim. Thanks to Darin and the loan of the mic from Aaron I fingered it out. All three cylinders so far called for .045, so I used a .030 & .015. Post #6 explains the math.

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the trick with keepers is to put the tip of one of those extending super magnets on the keepers before you try to loosen them.... that way they stick....

the other method is put a blob of axle grease on the end of the valve.

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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:36 PM
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Good job glenn.i have my pocket magnet handy at all times for fishing keepers in and out.grease holds them whem done.whack with hammer helps retainers to come apart initally.good going though..you will get real good at it!
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ReBilld
You're doin good buddy! Just be careful what you bang your head on.......don't want dents in the Mare! LOL!
The old gray mare bit me and made me bleed the other day and I just feel like head butting it, LOL Mike said after the first one I would get the hang of it, I guess I'm a little slow. LOL

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Sounds like your getting the hang of it though Glenn. Just another battle wound. haha
Yeah, I know Gabe, I'm bitching but as long as I don't drop anything down in the moter its all good. If I lose a keeper, I can buy more but I don't know where I would get another retainer (the thing the keepers go into). LOL

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the trick with keepers is to put the tip of one of those extending super magnets on the keepers before you try to loosen them.... that way they stick....

the other method is put a blob of axle grease on the end of the valve.

Richard
Well Richard, my problem isn't getting them them out. Its putting them back in. My magnet is one of those extending ones and I bought a small one for this project. Problem is, its to strong!! When I put it in there it wouldn't let go so I've been using a little screw driver to push it in the hole away from the manget. I put some grease on the keeper so it will stay against the valve stem. I'll get it figured out by the eight cylinder, LOL
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman67
Good job glenn.i have my pocket magnet handy at all times for fishing keepers in and out.grease holds them whem done.whack with hammer helps retainers to come apart initally.good going though..you will get real good at it!
I've been giving them a whack with a rubber hammer before I compress them and after compressing they will come right out with the magnet. When putting them back in I'm guessing that I'm either getting them in to high or to low on the valve stem. I don't know, its just a practice thing I'm sure, its probably not something that someone can tell me. Thanks
 
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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You are wise,I have nothing to add after the last.You WILL get into a rythm and it will work out.Just try to enjoy the time...lol
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 12:30 AM
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I did all the springs on my Superduty with the evaporator cover in place. It should be a piece of cake for you with it off. I also didn't have to raise, or lower, the engine. The size and design of the McTool allows you to R&R them without doing so.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 05:47 AM
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Sounds like you're getting the hang of it Glenn. FWIW, I always hit my springs/retainers with a brass hammer to originally knock the retainer "loose" from the keepers. I do the same thing after its together to insure that everything is set and locked in place.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by mueckster
I did all the springs on my Superduty with the evaporator cover in place. It should be a piece of cake for you with it off. I also didn't have to raise, or lower, the engine. The size and design of the McTool allows you to R&R them without doing so.
The McTool is a really nice tool. The back one on the drivers side is next, doesn't look like it will be a problem.

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Sounds like you're getting the hang of it Glenn. FWIW, I always hit my springs/retainers with a brass hammer to originally knock the retainer "loose" from the keepers. I do the same thing after its together to insure that everything is set and locked in place.
I've been giving it a whack before and after. The one keeper that went flying was from the whack after I thought I had them set.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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Sending in my chip to Jonathan at Beans today for a reburn. I got the T500 back last week. I missed the Fedex man twice to sign for the injectors from Jim but called them and they held them at their office for me. I still need a starter relay, some trans hose for the cooler and heater hose but other then that I think I have all my ducks in a row for getting this mare back together.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 10:22 AM
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Gleen I don't know if I missed it but are you doing read disk brakes on this one ?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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No Mike, since I put disk brakes on my 5er, I'm not worried about it. I did rebuild the drum brakes on the mare.

I got four more done today, I keepers still are a pain in the as!! One more to do on the back passenger side. The back drivers side I had to jack up the engine and the McTool as Roland calls it fit in there. All of my values required a .030 & a .015 shim. All of the valves are falling into the 1.750 to 1.760 range except one, its at 1.763. Between all of them, the varience has only been between .009 and .001. In other words, they were all about the same.

If the last cylinder goes OK I'll be mailing back the tools Monday Roland & Aaron. Thanks again!!

 
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You're gaining Glenn. Be nice to get under the valve covers done and get them on. Makes a guy feel like he's getting somewhere!
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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You're gaining Glenn. Be nice to get under the valve covers done and get them on. Makes a guy feel like he's getting somewhere!
haha, I've been putting off the SD uvch mod, LOL
 
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Old Jan 26, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that one!
 
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