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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
In fact, Jody recently posted he has NOT changed the way he tunes since ULSD came out.

Personally, I'd love to see some videos of a 140 tune that doesn't smoke and video/audio of tune-switching with no audible change. I have posted videos of just that with my current chip.
How is that possible? I know I have got updates since then. He has actually told me personally that he has made a tweaks to the tunes and I believe him since the newer batch came out quieter. Just on the sound alone, I can hear a difference, not that it means much but there is some difference. Now I am confused.

My modified stock does sound different than the Tow tunes which are similar. The Econo and Smoke does sound about the same, FWIW. Maybe mine are different because I have Stage II AC injectors? IDK
 
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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That's got me curious! My DP is almost twice as loud in 60e. So Jody is able to tweak and quieten it down? I mostly ride in stock because I am tired of the noise. Earlier this week I was thinking about dynomating the whole truck. I don't like the way it shifts either but that may have to do with the JWVB . DP may be going back for an update or a may give BTS a shot.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe28443
That's got me curious! My DP is almost twice as loud in 60e. So Jody is able to tweak and quieten it down? I mostly ride in stock because I am tired of the noise. Earlier this week I was thinking about dynomating the whole truck. I don't like the way it shifts either but that may have to do with the JWVB . DP may be going back for an update or a may give BTS a shot.
He can change the shifting for the JW valve body. I hated mine when I pick up my truck with the new trans. He pulled the chip out and readjusted it. Not bad at all now. Except for stock tune, a little hard. He foregot that one. Have the chip redone and let us know what you think.

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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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What about the sound? Is yours louder than stock ? If so how much
 
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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe28443
What about the sound? Is yours louder than stock ? If so how much
Yes, my is louder then stock set up. But my chip is almost 3 years old, I need to send it back anyway for up dates.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe28443
That's got me curious! My DP is almost twice as loud in 60e. So Jody is able to tweak and quieten it down? I mostly ride in stock because I am tired of the noise. Earlier this week I was thinking about dynomating the whole truck.

I don't like the way it shifts either but that may have to do with the JWVB . DP may be going back for an update or a may give BTS a shot.
Depending on what you have done, it might be that way. My Stage II AC injectors are louder than stock. The latest tune from Jody has made them about as quiet as stock in the Tow mode. A little louder in the Econo.

I'm not sure. I thought Jody has set up his tunes for BTS and JW? Maybe it is time for you to take that trans back to JW and have him fix it? While it is there, I'm sure you can find a few more things wrong with your truck that needs upgrading?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:28 AM
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I have stock injectors and just the valve body not the tranny. I sent my chip back to Jody about a year ago after the installation of the valve body to get rid of those horrible down shifts and was told I did not need to change anything .
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:41 AM
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Sorry I'm late to the party. DP, live-tuning F6 by proxy, FFD Stage IIs (100% nozzles).

I'm the guy that has the quiet DP tune that's been delivering the goods: 60e. It has excellent road and neighborhood manners... yet a footfall brings 7.3 layers of "up yours" to anything nearby, forgoing the soot show. I did a full-on brakeless burnout with the 60e until I had enough speed to finally grab another gear (I won't repeat that on new tires). I think the 60e delivers more than labeled, but Jody didn't have a dyno until recently. The shifts are assertive, but not aggressive with my HD4R100, but the results may soften in the summer when the tranny temps climb. I need a transmission thermostat to get stable temps throughout the year, then I can get the shifts set for that.

80e ist der kaput. I made one run on that thing with video-a-rollin' and AE data recording. I am never going to let that tune near Stinky again. It's one thing if it needs tweaking, but that tune is out of control.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:54 AM
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I , like Tugly here, am running stage 2's, Although I will not call my truck quiet, It sounds more like a Buss, or Dump truck at idle. Stock tune feels like my old 80e, and yes, I fog a neighborhood with 60e. ( i have recently stopped traffic when I merged). The Tires were chirping at 30mph, 80e, wholly crap. 120, I will not do that again unless I am in 4 wheel drive. I have had problems with tires since I bought the truck, this isnt going to help. Grin factor although is above and beyond.


Shift points, before the stage 2. I had Dp tunes, then a BTS, as i said before, it would loosen teeth when it downshifted. After the live tune, everything was spot on. Jody changed just the presure ( I believe ) but everything else remained the same.

My issues are MPG, and until I find a way to hang out with AE, and post every find, I am pretty damn bummed with my set up when it comes to MPG.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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Soon as the X'mas season is over, I think I might just invest in an AE setup and see if Jody can get it any closer.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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[quote=just another truck;12564649]I , like Tugly here, am running stage 2's, Although I will not call my truck quiet, It sounds more like a Buss, or Dump truck at idle. Stock tune feels like my old 80e, and yes, I fog a neighborhood with 60e. ( i have recently stopped traffic when I merged). The Tires were chirping at 30mph, 80e, wholly crap. 120, I will not do that again unless I am in 4 wheel drive. I have had problems with tires since I bought the truck, this isnt going to help. Grin factor although is above and beyond.


Shift points, before the stage 2. I had Dp tunes, then a BTS, as i said before, it would loosen teeth when it downshifted. After the live tune, everything was spot on. Jody changed just the presure ( I believe ) but everything else remained the same.

My issues are MPG, and until I find a way to hang out with AE, and post every find, I am pretty damn bummed with my set up when it comes to MPG.[/quote
Out of curiousity, what is your mpg? Sounds like your right foot might be an issue Just saying.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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I fog a neighborhood with 60e. ( i have recently stopped traffic when I merged).
Pat, that doesn't sound very 'economy'.

I basically can't get any smoke out of my '60' tunes. I especially like this in the 6spd dually (AC codes - aka Stage 1's), since I tend to lug it down when driving around town. Sure, it spools up faster and cleans the smoke quickly in the higher tunes if ya keep your foot in it - but its more common for me to just apply more throttle (but not WOT) at 1300rpms rather than downshift. The X (with stock injectors) won't smoke at all in this tune unless you just snap the loud pedal at low speed - then its just a small cloud left where it happened. If I wait for 10psi of boost before dropping the hammer, there is no smoke in any tune.

There was a nearly disappointing moment in the dually awhile back where I was merging into traffic from the left and some schmuck in a little bimmer decided he wasn't gonna let me get in front of him. I casually reached down and twisted the 'lil **** all the way to the right ('140' tune) and dropped the hammer in 4rth gear. Despite his efforts, I easily passed him and was able to merge before I ran out of lane - but when I looked back to change lanes and expected to see some punishing black smoke rolling up his hood and over the car - there was NOTHING. Even banging it into OD and standing on it again failed to put any smoke on this deserving *****. However, it was satisfying to imagine the look on his face when that 10k lb flatbed 'work truck' outran his car from 50-80mph.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:57 AM
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Sounds like your right foot might be an issue Just saying.
Dont sweat it. What I have done for driving has been as I drove before. when leaving a light, my RPMS are normally not above 2000, I watch the boost gage to keep under 5psi, there are times were a little slower, or a lot faster come to play. IT is VERY HARD not to stay on it, because of how much fun it can be.

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Pat, that doesn't sound very 'economy'.

I basically can't get any smoke out of my '60' tunes. I especially like this in the 6spd dually (AC codes - aka Stage 1's), since I tend to lug it down when driving around town. Sure, it spools up faster and cleans the smoke quickly in the higher tunes if ya keep your foot in it - but its more common for me to just apply more throttle (but not WOT) at 1300rpms rather than downshift. The X (with stock injectors) won't smoke at all in this tune unless you just snap the loud pedal at low speed - then its just a small cloud left where it happened. If I wait for 10psi of boost before dropping the hammer, there is no smoke in any tune.

There was a nearly disappointing moment in the dually awhile back where I was merging into traffic from the left and some schmuck in a little bimmer decided he wasn't gonna let me get in front of him. I casually reached down and twisted the 'lil **** all the way to the right ('140' tune) and dropped the hammer in 4rth gear. Despite his efforts, I easily passed him and was able to merge before I ran out of lane - but when I looked back to change lanes and expected to see some punishing black smoke rolling up his hood and over the car - there was NOTHING. Even banging it into OD and standing on it again failed to put any smoke on this deserving *****. However, it was satisfying to imagine the look on his face when that 10k lb flatbed 'work truck' outran his car from 50-80mph.
I know I am running rich Jason, I dont know if I am supposed to, but I know I am running rich, even at idle. Real rich

But I can most certainly roll the coal when I mash down the skinny.

My Milage before the injectors and new tunes were 60-65mph 17 miles to the gallon

70mph 15.5-16

in the city 11.5-12.2

As of the last time I was able to run the truck for any distance,

70mph 13.32
75mph 12 mpg.



here was the killer 55-60 14.25 mpg

and now the city 10.32

Normally I did not see a difference between winter fuel and summer on the expressway, the difference I am seeing in the city doesnt concern me that much, but the highway is shocking the heck out of me.

I spoke to Jody about it, he suggested I watch my boost presure, then he let me know his presure. I removed the muffler, but have not really had a chance to run the expressway since. Well, I did, with alot of city driving mixed in, I saw 13.9 mpg.

I believe My next step will be be AE, and look into a different Turbo. I just dont know what it is I need.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by just another truck
My Milage before the injectors and new tunes were 60-65mph 17 miles to the gallon

70mph 15.5-16
in the city 11.5-12.2

As of the last time I was able to run the truck for any distance,

70mph 13.32
75mph 12 mpg.
here was the killer 55-60 14.25 mpg
and now the city 10.32

...I spoke to Jody about it, he suggested I watch my boost presure, then he let me know his presure. I removed the muffler, but have not really had a chance to run the expressway since. Well, I did, with alot of city driving mixed in, I saw 13.9 mpg.

I believe My next step will be be AE, and look into a different Turbo. I just dont know what it is I need.
Not knowing your intake/exhaust, these sticks need AIR... not air... but AIR! AIS, 4" exhaust, and a 38R gets it done, but just. Lack of air robs you of power, so you step on it more... and more.... The trick: The EGT gauge is an inverted MPG gauge. The cooler it runs, the less fuel you're burning for a given speed. My EGT sensor is on the exhaust manifold, just before the up pipe.

60-65 MPH gives me 525-600 degrees. (18-19 MPG)
70-75 MPH gives me 600-650 degrees. (17-18 MPG)

All with 3.73 gearing, these Stage II sticks, and my driving habits.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Not knowing your intake/exhaust, these sticks need AIR... not air... but AIR! AIS, 4" exhaust, and a 38R gets it done, but just. Lack of air robs you of power, so you step on it more... and more.... The trick: The EGT gauge is an inverted MPG gauge. The cooler it runs, the less fuel you're burning for a given speed. My EGT sensor is on the exhaust manifold, just before the up pipe.

60-65 MPH gives me 525-600 degrees. (18-19 MPG)
70-75 MPH gives me 600-650 degrees. (17-18 MPG)

All with 3.73 gearing, these Stage II sticks, and my driving habits.

Sorry, I have been getting a little more political with my Sigs then informative...

Presently, 6637, stock turbo, 4"MRB turbo back Muffler delete...Gage mounted at exhaust manifold, drivers side.

temps..hmm, sorry, normally watch them when hot *******, if hot *******. Dont get me wrong, I look, I just dont study...

Funny thing is i believe boost would work right along with exhaust, temps go up when boost does..just watching differrent gages.
 
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