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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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Brake help needed

B700 with hydraboost brakes, the backup brake motor(Electric) keeps going on and off while driving down the road. Light and buzzer going on and off. Eventually the relay sticks and it stays on constant, even with the key off. I change out the relay and all is well for usually several hundred miles, then it starts all over. I have changed the belt on the fluid pump, and changed the pressure switch in the boost unit. Dont know if I need to replace the belt driven boost pump, or the electric back up system next. Any Ideas? Thanks Dennis
 
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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B700 is a School Bus, what year is it? It's impossible to answer questions when people don't list enough info.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Sorry thought I had year, it is a 1993 model bus
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 11:57 PM
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So the problem is that the relay is failing?

The contacts are welding together? And not allowing it to turn off once the engine is running?

Or is the problem that the back up motor is having to run constantly because the pump isn't creating the pressure required to switch the safety switch?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rummur s.c.
So the problem is that the relay is failing?

The contacts are welding together? And not allowing it to turn off once the engine is running?

Or is the problem that the back up motor is having to run constantly because the pump isn't creating the pressure required to switch the safety switch?
I'll offer a 3rd possiblity: Maybe it make enough pressure to work properly but due to electic problems It just doesn't think it makes enough pressure and kicks on the electric pump.
As allways when checking electics Check ALL grounds and If there are extra wires the vehicle didn't come with unhook them.
(I hate butchered wireing harnesses)
 
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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The buzzer/light/ pump kick off and on while driving most of the time for 1 to 2 seconds, then eventually sticks the relay and runs constant. Wiring has not been altered, bus has about 60,000 miles on it
 
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 01:28 AM
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I have a 1985 F-700 which i believe has the same system. There should be an oil pressure switch by the rear axle mine is on the passenger side. My wire had a break on it, so i put a new end on it. Another time it did the same thing, this time it burn't out the electric pump motor. There is a black box called a sensor module on left lower dash 2 screws hold it on. I took it off openned it up to find the circuit board was burn't. Replaced it 2years ago. Mine has also gone off if fluid level is low. Hope this helps Pat. I have a wiring diagram somewhere if you need more info , if i can't find i can get it from one of my mechanics.
 
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