A WTF moment
Cargo Master
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"Green" Prius drivers are liberal granola's in a tin can. They love to drive in the #1 freeway lane at 60 mph with there nose in the air. It's the same liberal mindset as the rest of them. They are just better than you, your truck should be outlawed because its old and smelly. The whole "green" movement is killing this country.
Cargo Master
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From: Lost In a Pit of Despair
"Green" Prius drivers are liberal granola's in a tin can. They love to drive in the #1 freeway lane at 60 mph with there nose in the air. It's the same liberal mindset as the rest of them. They are just better than you, your truck should be outlawed because its old and smelly. The whole "green" movement is killing this country.
I think the green movement is all fine and dandy in the renewable energy category (wind, solar, geothermal, hydro-electric) for electricity, but I don't think that green cars will really become popular as long as there are people like us who love our old cars and trucks.
You guys might find this funny, my friend is about to graduate from college with a degree in clean and renewable energy, and he drives a 1972 c10 with a 454 crate motor...
Jameson
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From: Great American SouthWest
A few of my co-workers are hybrid owners...they're "dudley do-rights" and in my opinion buy them cars to make themselves feel good and above others because they are "saving the planet". To me they're a bunch of hypocrites.
The stupider thing is that most of them drive 30-50 miles to get to work and rack up thousands of miles per year and use alot of gasoline. In a few years, they'll trade in the car for a new one, and so on and so one and so on. I have a 9-mile commute and use one gallon of fuel if I take my rig. Less miles traveled means less wear and tear on the roads. The best thing they could do is live closer to work and drive an efficient vehicle.
The stupider thing is that most of them drive 30-50 miles to get to work and rack up thousands of miles per year and use alot of gasoline. In a few years, they'll trade in the car for a new one, and so on and so one and so on. I have a 9-mile commute and use one gallon of fuel if I take my rig. Less miles traveled means less wear and tear on the roads. The best thing they could do is live closer to work and drive an efficient vehicle.
Second is that people seem to think the electricity just comes from the magic wire and has no cost involved. Out in Los Angeles, electricity is relatively inexpensive and many businesses install charging stations. But in Arizona, electricity is very expensive. We get ours from the Palo Verde nuker, but most electricity comes from coal fired plants.
So, electric cars actually run on coal and produce more toxic waste than our trucks ever could.
Cargo Master
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From: Lost In a Pit of Despair
Not to mention the process involved in manufacturing a prius.
The nickle mine that Toyota uses is in Canada, and is the dirtiest mine around. The nickle ore is shipped to the Eastern Seaboard, and then freighted over to the UK. There it gets smelted, and shipped to China. From there, it is made into a battery (using a plastic case; petroleum derived), then shipped to Japan to get assembled into a Prius. Then it gets shipped to whatever country the car is being sold in. For example, it comes into the US on the west coast, then gets transported all the way back to the eastern seaboard to get sold.
That is a lot of shipping and freighting, all of which use oil of some sort. Same with the smelting
Jameson
The nickle mine that Toyota uses is in Canada, and is the dirtiest mine around. The nickle ore is shipped to the Eastern Seaboard, and then freighted over to the UK. There it gets smelted, and shipped to China. From there, it is made into a battery (using a plastic case; petroleum derived), then shipped to Japan to get assembled into a Prius. Then it gets shipped to whatever country the car is being sold in. For example, it comes into the US on the west coast, then gets transported all the way back to the eastern seaboard to get sold.
That is a lot of shipping and freighting, all of which use oil of some sort. Same with the smelting
Jameson
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From: Lynchburg, VA
There are two problems with hybrids like the Prius that nobody is yet talking about. The first is that the batteries, like all batteries, wear out. Unfortunately, there is no changing them. If they are in a serious accident, there is also no repairing them - they're totaled.
Second is that people seem to think the electricity just comes from the magic wire and has no cost involved. Out in Los Angeles, electricity is relatively inexpensive and many businesses install charging stations. But in Arizona, electricity is very expensive. We get ours from the Palo Verde nuker, but most electricity comes from coal fired plants.
So, electric cars actually run on coal and produce more toxic waste than our trucks ever could.
Second is that people seem to think the electricity just comes from the magic wire and has no cost involved. Out in Los Angeles, electricity is relatively inexpensive and many businesses install charging stations. But in Arizona, electricity is very expensive. We get ours from the Palo Verde nuker, but most electricity comes from coal fired plants.
So, electric cars actually run on coal and produce more toxic waste than our trucks ever could.
If you talk to the people that actually specialize in and work on the Synergy drive system, you'll find that they actually like it. I've warmed up to it a bit, but deep down, I still don't like it.
The thing I dislike most about Priuses is the drivers. 80% of Priuses I work on smell like absolute @$$. There's crap laying everywhere; papers, coffee cups, towels, food, McDonald's bag, etc. in the floorboards.
Hotshot
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From: Stanley, VA
Dang Marc! I don't sign on for two days (traveling, business) and look at the commotion your causing 
.
I also have one of the "clueless" as a neighbor. His wife drives a new Prius and he did drive a '08 Dodge 2500 diesel. "She" was on him about the Dodge, it's "horrendous" fuel mileage and "gross" pollution. So to solve his domestic problem and become more "eco-friendly" he went out and spent $63K (yes, 63 THOUSAND!
) on a new 3500 Dodge 
.
He was bragging about how much further he can go on a tank of fuel, he's one of the cluless that doesn't compute actual mileage but goes by how many times he has to fill his tank. I tried to get actual MPG figures out of him but didn't get anywhere.
Then I finally asked him, and here's where I got the "three headed or the deer in the headlight" look, how much fuel could he buy with $63K.
I turned around, walked away, shaking my head, thinking "geeze, what a F******g moron!
They're everywhere, and unfortunately, they breed and vote.
.I also have one of the "clueless" as a neighbor. His wife drives a new Prius and he did drive a '08 Dodge 2500 diesel. "She" was on him about the Dodge, it's "horrendous" fuel mileage and "gross" pollution. So to solve his domestic problem and become more "eco-friendly" he went out and spent $63K (yes, 63 THOUSAND!
) on a new 3500 Dodge .He was bragging about how much further he can go on a tank of fuel, he's one of the cluless that doesn't compute actual mileage but goes by how many times he has to fill his tank. I tried to get actual MPG figures out of him but didn't get anywhere.
Then I finally asked him, and here's where I got the "three headed or the deer in the headlight" look, how much fuel could he buy with $63K.
I turned around, walked away, shaking my head, thinking "geeze, what a F******g moron!
They're everywhere, and unfortunately, they breed and vote.
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Hotshot
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From: Stanley, VA
I know, but you can't explain it to him. I'm not sure whether he realy doesn't get it or doesn't WANT to get it.
Cargo Master
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From: Lost In a Pit of Despair
Well if they have the kind of money to buy a 2008 2500, a new Prius, then a 63K 2013 3500, they probably don't care about the fuel economy. Case in point, you mentioned he "fills up" every time, and a 35 gallon diesel fill up is roughly $150...
Cargo Master
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#1 freeway lane?
The fast lane. Freeways lanes are numbered the inner lane is the #1, and up from there.
Ever seen a Prius driven. With the windows down in town either. I've only seen one or two. Most of the time these guys roll around with the air on. So high and mighty but burning up juice or fuel with the air on in 75• weather.
The fast lane. Freeways lanes are numbered the inner lane is the #1, and up from there.
Ever seen a Prius driven. With the windows down in town either. I've only seen one or two. Most of the time these guys roll around with the air on. So high and mighty but burning up juice or fuel with the air on in 75• weather.
Cargo Master
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From: Lost In a Pit of Despair
Around here we have the carpool lane, slow lane, truck lane, and the "dammit I'm in the merge lane" lane
Jameson
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From: NorCal
Dang Marc! I don't sign on for two days (traveling, business) and look at the commotion your causing .
I also have one of the "clueless" as a neighbor. His wife drives a new Prius and he did drive a '08 Dodge 2500 diesel. "She" was on him about the Dodge, it's "horrendous" fuel mileage and "gross" pollution. So to solve his domestic problem and become more "eco-friendly" he went out and spent $63K (yes, 63 THOUSAND!) on a new 3500 Dodge .
He was bragging about how much further he can go on a tank of fuel, he's one of the cluless that doesn't compute actual mileage but goes by how many times he has to fill his tank. I tried to get actual MPG figures out of him but didn't get anywhere.
Then I finally asked him, and here's where I got the "three headed or the deer in the headlight" look, how much fuel could he buy with $63K.
I turned around, walked away, shaking my head, thinking "geeze, what a F******g moron!
They're everywhere, and unfortunately, they breed and vote.
.I also have one of the "clueless" as a neighbor. His wife drives a new Prius and he did drive a '08 Dodge 2500 diesel. "She" was on him about the Dodge, it's "horrendous" fuel mileage and "gross" pollution. So to solve his domestic problem and become more "eco-friendly" he went out and spent $63K (yes, 63 THOUSAND!
) on a new 3500 Dodge .He was bragging about how much further he can go on a tank of fuel, he's one of the cluless that doesn't compute actual mileage but goes by how many times he has to fill his tank. I tried to get actual MPG figures out of him but didn't get anywhere.
Then I finally asked him, and here's where I got the "three headed or the deer in the headlight" look, how much fuel could he buy with $63K.
I turned around, walked away, shaking my head, thinking "geeze, what a F******g moron!
They're everywhere, and unfortunately, they breed and vote.
2x.... that's the inherent problem with thinking these days... Dems/liberals focus on the ends of the means. I think universal health care is a grand idea but few thought about what does it took to get there. The ACA was passed by Congress based on the Commerce Clause. It was not until the last days of arguments before the Supreme Court did this administration pull out an argument based on Congress' taxation powers (granted by the Constitution) to make it a tax penalty.
More in tune thinking looks at the means to get to the end and whether those means are constitutional or fiscally sound.
Clean air = Good idea. How do we get there? Liberal response: Tax! Regulate!
Job creation - good idea. How do we get there? Liberal response: Tax the rich and give money to the unemployed.
Deficit reduction = good idea. Liberal response: Tax!
Hire more police and firefighters = good idea. But why would anyone hire people when there is little to no tax revenue to hire more people?
...I wanna move to Texas.
