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A few of my co-workers are hybrid owners...they're "dudley do-rights" and in my opinion buy them cars to make themselves feel good and above others because they are "saving the planet". To me they're a bunch of hypocrites.
The stupider thing is that most of them drive 30-50 miles to get to work and rack up thousands of miles per year and use alot of gasoline. In a few years, they'll trade in the car for a new one, and so on and so one and so on. I have a 9-mile commute and use one gallon of fuel if I take my rig. Less miles traveled means less wear and tear on the roads. The best thing they could do is live closer to work and drive an efficient vehicle.
If we look at the amortization of input labor and material costs to produce a vehicle, it is actually better to keep older vehicles on the road because the labor and material grows cheaper over time. Look at it this way, my 73 is darned near 40 years old. How many vehicles has the typical motorists gone through over that same time? Likely around six or seven. Using weight as a the simplest gauge... compare one 40-year old, 5,000 pound truck against 20,000 pounds or more- the total weight of all those vehicles they have used. How much total energy input is required to produce six vehicles compared to the energy input back in 1973?
Don't get me wrong. I like clean air and water but some of these regs from the State, CA Air Resources Board, and the Fed EPA are draconian. Beginning as of Jan 1, 2013, the local air district will issue $400 citations on "Spare the Air" days for burning wood in your fireplace. Residents using their fireplace as their only means of heat are exempted from the law.
Watch for the Pres to direct the EPA to enact or create new air regulations on carbon emissions. See, it doesn't have to go through Congress if it is a Federal agency enacting regulations to attain a certain goal if there is language within existing law like the Clean Air Act.
A friend of mine told me this past summer he loved my '79 for the following reasons: the crumple zone was whatever I ran over and I had an ozone hole that followed me everywhere I went.
I wouldn't trade my Dentsides for anything. If I had the money for a new pick-up, I'd spend it on more Dentsides.
see my experince with my dents is just the opposite. people are always trying to by the damn things from me. or want to know where i find all the cool old trucks or parts. one day while just out and about some one offered me 4000 for my 78. i said sorry its not for sale. the guy wanted it for a hunting truck.
Well with all the people driving Prius's (everybody has one around here. I swear I see a dozen or two on my 20 minute drive home from school), the extra gas can go into your truck
In all honesty, I don't mind new cars. I sure as hell wouldn't want to work on one, but I don't mind driving them. Some newer cars have some really nice features. I learned to drive in a 2007 Dodge Nitro (goes anywhere) and a 2009 Volvo S60 that I took my test in. I have to give Volvo credit, because that car is built like and weighs about as much as a tank, but the little turbo straight 5 can make that thing go.
Case in point with working on them, a few months ago, my dad's nitro needed the transfer case fluid changed, as well as the trans fluid topped off. Couldn't get to the case because of all the crap around it, and the trans fill tube had a special cap on it that is only designed to be removed by a dodge shop. We pulled it off with vice grips, and later found out that voided the lifetime power train warranty on it
Some people just don't get it and looks like you encountered one of them. I like to think of us as preservationists of American history. The trucks we drive where made here in the US by fellow American workers. In my case my truck was made only 20 miles from me so there are retired Ford employees that live in my community.
Our trucks are fun to drive, fun to work on and they stick out from the crowd of cars and trucks that all look the same and if somebody doesn't get it then they are narrow minded and not open to someone else passion. They are not true Californians by any means.
Spoken by a native born Californian deep in the heart of the liberal left. (No political affiliation intended here)
One of the dorks I work with here,,, just cannot stand my trucks, can't get past the "patina", and does not understand how I can drive them instead of my 02 Dually. But... he is a dork, and I just go with that, I have way more people ask, talk and enjoy my 66 than his 08 or whatever Tundra, (which gets crappy mileage that he wines about!)
And having lived down in the OC, I ALWAYS loved how folks would look at you down there driving my old piles!! However, as you so eloquently stated Marc, "WE are the enlightened ones!!" Amen brotha!
Originally Posted by turbohunter
I just had one of those moments in which the person you are talking to doesn't have a clue as to what planet you're on.
A work acquaintance of mine was behind me on the way in this morning.
Inside he see's me and asks, "Why were you driving that old truck? Is it your fathers' or something? It doesn't have a hitch or anything and I know you can afford a better vehicle."
He could not understand why I would drive such a piece of crap (my words not his, but thats what was implied).
I tried in vain to explain real vehicles made out of metal not plastic, and that I actually prefer to drive my truck instead of buying a new "car".
He looked at me like I had three heads.
BTW.................. he drives a freakin' Prius.
I'm more convinced than ever that we are enlightened folks here on this forum.
idk, I get the opposite all the time too. See I have my 78 F150, which is obviously redneck, and then my diesel excursion, which has a brush guard and deer antlers on the grille. But sometimes I drive my spouses toyota camry, which is plain and boring, and douche bags in dodge diesels (WITH SIX INCH STACCKS, DOGG) sit there in traffic and rev them up and black you out and all that ****, and I'm just like... dude, just because youre in a diesel and I'm in a car doesn't give you license to be a giant douche bag. I have a diesel truck that is tune to operate correctly (and efficiently) with a minimum of smoke and I don't sit there in traffic and rev it like I'm a 16 year old asian kid in a honda civic (or a 60 year old man on a harley with straight pipes).
I just had one of those moments in which the person you are talking to doesn't have a clue as to what planet you're on.
A work acquaintance of mine was behind me on the way in this morning.
Inside he see's me and asks, "Why were you driving that old truck? Is it your fathers' or something? It doesn't have a hitch or anything and I know you can afford a better vehicle."
He could not understand why I would drive such a piece of crap (my words not his, but thats what was implied).
I tried in vain to explain real vehicles made out of metal not plastic, and that I actually prefer to drive my truck instead of buying a new "car".
He looked at me like I had three heads.
BTW.................. he drives a freakin' Prius.
I'm more convinced than ever that we are enlightened folks here on this forum.
I think your classic truck should just leave a big ol 'foot print' over his hood. Given the import's 'ramp like' nose, the back tires of your 'piece of crap' should not have any problem leaving a lasting impression.
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