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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by m-chan68
And there again, is another BIG money waster right there.

You know, I had this tow truck in my bay today for a Check Engine light on diagnosis. It was a 2011 F-350 dually with all warranty cancelled on it, but that's another story. The conversation I had with the driver was interesting to say the least. He actually asked me if there was anything he could/should do to make it go faster. His complaint was that other trucks were beating him to accident scenes. He complained that he couldn't go any faster than 150 km/h, at which point I very quickly clarified that these trucks are governed limited to 153 km/h and for a reason. He asked me what he could do to make it more powerful/faster. These 6.7L trucks are already 400 bhp/800 ft-lbs. from the factory!!!
M-chan,
Did you think about telling him to remove the loose nut behind the wheel?
I told a kid that once and he started looking for a "loose nut" I BS you not
on that. One of his friends told me I was smart a$$ but he thought
it was funny also

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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Ok gotcha no intake. Not sure what the rest had to do with my questions. I just dont want to cut my trucks life in half by doing anytjing.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 07:00 AM
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Just curious, by why not run and intake on the 6.0? What are the downsides to it? The stock filter box gets to be a PITA sometimes.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 07:10 AM
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The issue is that the OEM setup filters extremely well and flows enough air for supporting over 500 hp. Aftermarket intakes offer no advantage and are not cheap. The OEM last 75k + miles under normal conditions, so you can never "cost justify" an aftermarket system.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Gauges and service all fluids to start. Might want to upgrade the transmission pan to a deeper one for better cooling. Bigger tires then you will want to regear it aslo. Happy trails
 
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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If you do a straight pipe, do you need to tune the engine?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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If you do a straight pipe, do you need to tune the engine?
Nope.

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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by the_auto_tech
Just curious, by why not run and intake on the 6.0? What are the downsides to it? The stock filter box gets to be a PITA sometimes.
Most of the regulars here have seen it but this is a pretty good write-up:

So why do "they" call it an upgrade?

Performance air filter and intake assemblies are a hot aftermarket item. In most cases using one simply means more noise, and more dirt going into your engine. At the dealer we have seen many filter systems changed and for the most part it is obvious that these performance filters offer less filtration evidenced by dirt found in the intake system and worn turbocharger compressor fins. Many of these filters require a coating of oil to aid in filtration. This oil gets sucked in with air flowing through the filter and contaminates Mass Airflow Sensors providing an excellent surface for dirt to stick to. In addition, some intake systems cause erratic airflow through the MAF sensor. Either condition can result in performance concerns or a Check Engine light. For most Power Stroke Engines the stock Donaldson filters are the best choice. In cases where the housings have become distorted or have been broken, the best advice is to replace with the original. We do recognize that the 7.3l PSD F-Series trucks had several filter assembly designs all of which had problems with housings breaking or poor sealing. For that we recommend installing a Motorcraft severe duty upgrade that uses the Donaldson filters.

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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by uuhiteboy
Ok gotcha no intake. Not sure what the rest had to do with my questions. I just dont want to cut my trucks life in half by doing anytjing.
stay here and read a bit...

you'll learn what works and what doesn't.

certain tuners don't work.
certain headgaskets don't work
certain coolants don't work
leave the intake alone, for god's sake.

there's an awful lot of folks running stock oil cooler,
stock intake, a bulletproof or similar aftermarket egr
cooler, and a tune from matt, and are pretty happy.

and a coolant filter, for $125.

and an ed's ficm fluffing, for a few hundred, depending
on selection of tunes, and warranty....

a reader and codes to make the 6.0 haul *** is about $400

and a scanguage for $150, and you are mostly ready go to...

in this order, in my not so humble opinion.

scanguage II $150
coolant filter $150
ed@ficmrepair.com $300 ish
some of matt's tunes. $400

there's your first $1k... when you get that spent,
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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I sure like my "fluffed FICM"!!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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For me, if the truck is running good the only upgrade required is to change the fuel pressure regulator spring to the current version. Stop there, and enjoy the truck.

Brian
 
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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We have an 07 also with 90k on it,it's nothing done to it, the fuel pump went out at 86k and it took out four injectors,but then someone else said it was probley the injectors that went out and then the fuel pump, I don't know it just cost alot of money, Mc5c are you talking about the Blue spring kit.

We are having (in June) the bullet proof oil & EGR coolers and the guy said if we want we could have the ARP head studs done by way of doing one stud at a time it's a little cheeper that way the cost is going to be around $4,600.oo for parts and labor.
right now our fuel milage is bad and was before the injector problem, I was not with my wife when the fuel pump went bad she took it to a ford dealer in MI we live in MN I had the truck in the shop (ford dealer)three weeks before it happend becuse of the fule milage he said your EGR valve is going bad but till it goes all the way bad I can't warranty it, it only cost like $180 for a now one and I have to pay the first $100 anyways. I found out that I need to take the EGR valve out and clean it thats all! so this makes me think that dealership knows what they are doing and it's wrong or they don't know what the heck is going on.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Thanks for the info guys!
 
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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Dinomack, the "blue spring kit" is nothing more than the current Ford pressure regulator spring, so they are indeed the same thing. From what I understand the same spring is available from International, but the upgraded spring is the only spring in the OEM parts system and has been for a long time. I just call it the current fuel pressure regulator spring because if you go into a dealer and ask for the "blue spring mod" they probably won't know what you are asking for. You can get it different ways, mine came with a new cover and o-ring but I understand you can get a cheaper version of the kit with just the spring and o-ring. My dealer did mine for me, long story.

As an aside, I found out that the E-van version of the Powerstroke is tuned to around 235 hp, and that reduction in fuel requirement means that it can live forever with fuel pressure that would kill injectors in an F-verison in hours.

Brian
 
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Old Oct 27, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Thanks Brian, M-chan68 is that true about the EGR valve just needing a good cleaning or the fuel mileage will start falling off.I am going to clean ours on Monday and than fill the truck up and then drive it for a few days around town and then fill it again on Friday and drive it on the highway (about a 100 mile trip)and see if my mileage goes back up.
 
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