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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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Ac question not cooling

Ok the ac is going to tick me off. I recently replaced the condensor and noticed the orifice tube was full of metal shavings. So I replaced the compressor and dryer too. Blew all the lines out and put it back together. It cooled pretty good but wasn't cold enough. I stopped by a local quick kar and they pulled it down and I had the orifice checked and it was full of crap again. They where closing so they replaced the orifice and pulled the vacuum down and recharged. It was blowing pretty nice afterwards. Today on the freeway it quit cooling. When I slowed down it started cooling again. Does this sound like I need to completely flush everything again? It's cooling at idle but not at freeway speeds. I'll put gauges on it tomorrow...

Any thoughts? This thing it really starting to irritate me.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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I would start with either an overcharged or possibly an undercharged system.

Third symptom would be the compressor clutch isn't holding up at the higher RPMs.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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the system has a safty and will shutdown if either to HIGH or too LOW Pressure exists

the clutch wont put Metal in the system or do you think the clutch isnt working right causing the low cooling condition??

the Compressor Yes maybe could put metal

Im thinking its just contamination from the first breakdown honestly every time you go into it theres Metal it needs flushed better or something
 
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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could the higher speed cause to High Pressure Maybe??
 
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
could the higher speed cause to High Pressure Maybe??
That's the angle I was thinking.. an overcharge which is exagerated at higher engine RPMs. The A/C sensor sees too high of pressure and shuts the system down.

Which could be said about a low charge as well, higher rpms and there is less to pump thru the system and you get warm air.

The third angle is with the a/c compressor clutch not holding at higher rpm. (High RPM being relative given this is a diesel after all) Being a new or rebuilt compressor it's hard to say whether the clutch is any good and whether the air gap was set properly.

Easiest is to see where the pressures are and go from there. If it cooled fine on the highway at first and then got progressively worse I would target a low pressure problem and possibly a leak.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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wonder if it throws a DTC for pressure problem

and if it was full of metal again probaby wouldnt have A/C at ALL

Seems like 35psi on the low side rings a bell A/C ON truck at Idel I could be off to

Are you filling it with Lube to right not just 134a Freon
 
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
wonder if it throws a DTC for pressure problem

and if it was full of metal again probaby wouldnt have A/C at ALL

Seems like 35psi on the low side rings a bell A/C ON truck at Idel I could be off to

Are you filling it with Lube to right not just 134a Freon
35 on the low side @ about 70 degrees ambient would be about perfect.

I don't believe there is a DTC for a/c.

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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 03:56 AM
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I just hope that the OP did a flush of all the lines
before putting the new compressor in. It he is finding
metal shavings in the 2nd orifice I would worry that
some thing got missed.

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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 07:11 AM
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I've had the AC clutch of my work truck fail twice in the past 4 years.
The cooling failure at highway speeds was the primary symptom.
Slowing to idle would return the clutch to a speed where it would grab and spin up the compressor.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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your looking for 35/250 ish depending on temps outside. also make sure the high side needle is not bouncing abunch.
best guess is you gat a bad new compressior.
 
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I know the charge is correct. I had it pulled down and recharged with 45oz.

I'll check air gap first and and pressures. Hope it's not the compressor.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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I had a similar problem. I could not figure it out, so I took it to the dealership. It took them awhile to figure it out too. Turns out the dryer bag broke filling the system with desiccant. They had to evacuate and clean the entire system to get all of the desiccant out. The desiccant would plug the orifice. I believe this isn't common, but it was expensive to repair. I am no expert on this, but I hope it might help you.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 02:37 AM
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Crap that gets into the system no mater how is a PITA.
You need to disassemble as best as you can and use a
solvent flush system ment for auto A/C systems. You
flush till clean and then reassemble and pull a vacuum
and hold it for X hours. (X comes from the manufacture of the solvent)
when you sure it all good then you move onto the refill process.

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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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best home flush is rubbing alchol and a air gun to blow the lines out.
alchol will dry and leave nothing behind.
 
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