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Old May 8, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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I just bought this with w bosch water pump and 203 thermastat.
Can't wait to get em in
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing it this way.. It should be noted that it might take a little bit longer for the engine to warm up this way b/c coolant returning out of the engine is going to go to the filter instead of bypassing back through the engine while the thermostat is closed. So, the engine is having to replace the coolant taken by the filter with cold coolant from the radiator, so naturally the cold coolant that enters the engine now has to heat up causing the engine to warm up a touch slower. This isn't a problem in any way, despite how some people might want to look at it and it is not a full flow filter, it's still a bypass. It's just taking a small amount of coolant that would normally be getting bypassed back to the engine or returned to the radiator through the thermostat and filtering it. Coolant still has full ability to bypass to the engine or radiator, just a small amount of that is going to get filtered..
^^^x2 on the slower warm-up time. I installed my coolant filter exit line into the degas bottle line the same way. my filter input line comes from a T in my input heater line - which is essentially coming from the same place as the system in the OP's setup - the waterpump output.

I found that my engine was taking about 50% longer to warm up in the winter time (not much noticeable change in the summer), so I put a quarter-turn ball valve in series with my filter. in the winter I set the valve to mostly closed, but open it wide in the summer. granted I get slightly less filtering in the winter, but it keeps my warm-up times down. if I make a stop on a long trip in the winter, I open the valve up full and let it get some good filtering in until I remember to close it back down after the next slow warm-up trip when I forgot to close it back down prior :-)

sounds complicated, but really isn't. if I had it to do again, I would have just T'd into the heater return side, which is on the low-pressure side of the water pump, so the filter would get good flow for sure, but not bypass the thermostat. might make the heater slightly less warm, but I find my heater is way too hot anyway, once the truck is warm...

but yes, it sure does work well this way still - I dumped the coolant from my first filter change into a glass jar and could barely see through it - and that was without rinsing anything out of the filter element. I keep meaning to take a picture and post, but there's be lots of other similar pictures in similar threads. i'm curious what my second filter change shows - its coming due at my next oil change.
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing it this way.. It should be noted that it might take a little bit longer for the engine to warm up this way b/c coolant returning out of the engine is going to go to the filter instead of bypassing back through the engine while the thermostat is closed. So, the engine is having to replace the coolant taken by the filter with cold coolant from the radiator, so naturally the cold coolant that enters the engine now has to heat up causing the engine to warm up a touch slower. This isn't a problem in any way, despite how some people might want to look at it and it is not a full flow filter, it's still a bypass. It's just taking a small amount of coolant that would normally be getting bypassed back to the engine or returned to the radiator through the thermostat and filtering it. Coolant still has full ability to bypass to the engine or radiator, just a small amount of that is going to get filtered..

Also, should the coolant filter ever get clogged up, it will be fine. The system will just operate as it was previously designed since coolant can't go through the filter. Nothing bad is going to happen from having a clogged coolant filter.
Originally Posted by OldWoodsDiesel
^^^x2 on the slower warm-up time. I installed my coolant filter exit line into the degas bottle line the same way. my filter input line comes from a T in my input heater line - which is essentially coming from the same place as the system in the OP's setup - the waterpump output.

I found that my engine was taking about 50% longer to warm up in the winter time (not much noticeable change in the summer), so I put a quarter-turn ball valve in series with my filter. in the winter I set the valve to mostly closed, but open it wide in the summer. granted I get slightly less filtering in the winter, but it keeps my warm-up times down. if I make a stop on a long trip in the winter, I open the valve up full and let it get some good filtering in until I remember to close it back down after the next slow warm-up trip when I forgot to close it back down prior :-)

sounds complicated, but really isn't. if I had it to do again, I would have just T'd into the heater return side, which is on the low-pressure side of the water pump, so the filter would get good flow for sure, but not bypass the thermostat. might make the heater slightly less warm, but I find my heater is way too hot anyway, once the truck is warm...

but yes, it sure does work well this way still - I dumped the coolant from my first filter change into a glass jar and could barely see through it - and that was without rinsing anything out of the filter element. I keep meaning to take a picture and post, but there's be lots of other similar pictures in similar threads. i'm curious what my second filter change shows - its coming due at my next oil change.
Thank you gentlemen, and I agree with you.

 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RÖENTGEEP
Ok, thank you.
Why havent you changed that ORANGE intake hose?

Does the hose fail?
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pilgrimbizket
Does the hose fail?
Yes sir, and can dust your turbo, even when you dont see anything wrong, it can have a crack somewhere, or it seems that is aint broken (Alex).
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and I added another pic of a worn hose. The best choice is to replace it with a RiffRaff hose.
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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Hmmm i just thought they happened to fail often. Didnt know it could be something unoticeable.

And your second pic didnt work Jose.

Thanks!
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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I think it was just one additional pic he was posting - which, by the way has some of the best background items in a parts pic I've seen in a while:

from left to right:
1. a kids scooter (my daughter has a very similar one)
2. a windshield wiper blade
3. some sort of soda/beer can or canister of some sort
4. a FIRE HYDRANT (horizontal, on a table !?!?!?)
5. an empty can of butt-wiper, I mean budweiser :-)

I wish my workshop was so well equipped!
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Ahhh the picture worked this time around.
Weird... FTE Has some issues sometimes.
 
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Originally Posted by OldWoodsDiesel
I think it was just one additional pic he was posting - which, by the way has some of the best background items in a parts pic I've seen in a while:

from left to right:
1. a kids scooter (my daughter has a very similar one)
2. a windshield wiper blade
3. some sort of soda/beer can or canister of some sort
4. a FIRE HYDRANT (horizontal, on a table !?!?!?)
5. an empty can of butt-wiper, I mean budweiser :-)

I wish my workshop was so well equipped!
+1 LMBO
 
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Old May 9, 2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OldWoodsDiesel
I think it was just one additional pic he was posting - which, by the way has some of the best background items in a parts pic I've seen in a while:

from left to right:
1. a kids scooter (my daughter has a very similar one)
2. a windshield wiper blade
3. some sort of soda/beer can or canister of some sort
4. a FIRE HYDRANT (horizontal, on a table !?!?!?)
5. an empty can of butt-wiper, I mean budweiser :-)

I wish my workshop was so well equipped!
Very good appreciation about the pic. The pic isnt mine IIRC is from IAN

Originally Posted by Awitte58
Ahhh the picture worked this time around.
Weird... FTE Has some issues sometimes.
Glad you can see the pic, and in that way, maybe you want to change that ugly obsolet orange hose.

 
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