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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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How many leafs rear

My F250 10k, diesel has only 3 leafs in rear plus one aux with camper pkg. I have the 275x70 18 tires. Do the 20" give more leafs? It just seems not enough for a 10k GVRW.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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It's not enough for looks, you got that right.
It supports the weight it's designed for but sags bad and draws attention.
#1 complaint for the 2011+ F250 I think.
I was shocked hooking up to trailer with tractor for the first time after I purchased mine.
Seems Ford wanted to make the ride softer and screwed it up.
I will go F350 SRW next time.
Hook a larger tractor to a 2010 F250 and it still looks better.
Oh well, can be fixed with air bags; which I've not done yet since towing is just not something I do every week.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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It's not enough for looks, you got that right.
It supports the weight it's designed for but sags bad and draws attention.
#1 complaint for the 2011+ F250 I think.
I was shocked hooking up to trailer with tractor for the first time after I purchased mine.
Seems Ford wanted to make the ride softer and screwed it up.
I will go F350 SRW next time.
Hook a larger tractor to a 2010 F250 and it still looks better.
Oh well, can be fixed with air bags; which I've not done yet since towing is just not something I do every week.
So the aux spring I have should
Handle the additional load and not sag? It sits higher and isn't used until there is enough weight in rear.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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I have the overloads too and I doubt they have ever touched and I've had my truck sagging, it would take quite a bit of sag before they will take any load I think.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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I only have two and I don't touch.
With a 16 foot trailer I sag 2 1/2 inches.
With my new 20 foot, I can park the tractor back a few inches and it helps a bit while still keeping everything stable.
Haven't measured with the 20 foot, although the trailer is heaver too.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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I have a standard 250 and I have two long springs with the base short one, so 3 total, no overload.

I hate it, fixed it with airbags, I love them. I think they should be on the truck from the factory though I know they would NEVER do that.

I'm certain ford designed them to sag quite a bit as standard acceptable condition but most of us really don't like it. The springs are longer and rated for more weight than previous model years but they also are allowing a lot of rear end drop.

I'm also going to be getting a 350SRW next time but I'm sure I will still need to get airbags to handle my specific needs which in my case is towing trailers nearly every day. Nothing all that heavy but as we know, it takes very little weight to drop the rear 2" or more.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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I wonder if they tested the F250 towing heavy?
We know they hooked up to trailers and traveled across this country testing but you would think the sag on the F250 would have made them crazy.
Unless the designers lost to those controlling the money.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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I agree, who in their right mind would allow this truck to leave the factory knowing the rear end drops 4 inches with a standard lawn mower trailer!

I tow tandem axle 16' enclosed trailers everywhere, it's extremely common trailer, and no pickup should be designed to where we need weight distribution or airbags to pull one of these. They're about as common as the truck itself!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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if you have the camper pkg you have the same springs as a f350
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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are you guys using a WD hitch?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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i end up putting in Timbren SES seem to help. beats air up bags every time you need to tow something.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gsxr1300
if you have the camper pkg you have the same springs as a f350

Thats what i thought... I thought the only real difference was the F-350s used a 4'' block vs. the 2.25'' used on the F-250.

We have a local place that can "build" a custom set of leaf springs and im seriously considering have them add a leaf or two to mine. I dont have the camper package and it doesn't take much weight before the rear end starts droppin
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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There was a good thread about a week ago on add a leaf kits
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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i end up putting in Timbren SES seem to help. beats air up bags every time you need to tow something.

I have used the Timbrens on previous trucks. I had them on my 78 3/4 ton to help stabilize my 11 1/2 foot cabover camper. They worked great! Never knew they were there when I was empty, sat right on the bump stops with the camper. Made a huge difference. I also had them on my 07 Chevy 3/4 ton. They were horrible when I was empty. They rode just an inch and a half above the axle when empty and every little bump in the road would kick you in the butt when you hit the bump. They were fine when loaded up. Helped stabilize the 5er and took the sag out of the rear end nicely.

How far off the bump stops do yours sit when you're empty? I think the 3/4 ton and the 1 ton dually both use the 2" blocks under the leaf springs.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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F250 and F350 dually both use 2" rear blocks. F350 SRW uses 3.75" rear blocks.
 
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