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How far off the bump stops do yours sit when you're empty? I think the 3/4 ton and the 1 ton dually both use the 2" blocks under the leaf springs.
If the truck is completely empty and with the stock fuel tank it sit about an inch and half above bump stops. with all the stuff I have in the back (tool box, 9000lb warn winch, chain and straps, 15 ton bottle jack) with a fuel tank of fuel in the titan tank I have about 1/4 to 1/2 inch when the tank is empty I have about 1 inch.[/QUOTE]
Do you experience a second jolt after making the Timbrens contact the bump stops? What I call a kick in the butt!
Mac, to answer your original question, my F-350 (GVWR = 11,500) SWR, and 20 in option, has only 3 + 1 overload spring pack, but I'm sure the spring rate is different than your F-250. I have just picked up my truck so I have not pulled anything yet. I have to get the hitch installed, and a few other things finished. I don't see much difference between the empty ride of my old 250 and my new 350...I will have to wait and see what the loaded ride is like. Happy trails
If the truck is completely empty and with the stock fuel tank it sit about an inch and half above bump stops. with all the stuff I have in the back (tool box, 9000lb warn winch, chain and straps, 15 ton bottle jack) with a fuel tank of fuel in the titan tank I have about 1/4 to 1/2 inch when the tank is empty I have about 1 inch.
Do you experience a second jolt after making the Timbrens contact the bump stops? What I call a kick in the butt![/QUOTE]
nope just like that they are not even their. the empty ride did not change
Just reading about the sagging and I was surprised big time when I hooked up my 25 foot enclosed car hauler to the F-250. I know some guys are adding the air bags to compensate for the drop/sag but here is a question for anyone that knows. Does the F-250 (or F-350) have the weight distributing hitch? I don't see it as advertised on the Ford ads and before my Ford I had a Chev 2500 and it came with a weight distributing hitch. The Chev didn't sag like the Ford seems to when hitched to the same trailer and the Chev was a gasser with 8,600 lbs gvwr yet my F-250 Super Duty is a diesel with the 10,000 gvwr? So I wonder why the sag? I am guessing the Ford doesn't come with a weight distributing hitch? Anyone know for sure????
Just reading about the sagging and I was surprised big time when I hooked up my 25 foot enclosed car hauler to the F-250. I know some guys are adding the air bags to compensate for the drop/sag but here is a question for anyone that knows. Does the F-250 (or F-350) have the weight distributing hitch? I don't see it as advertised on the Ford ads and before my Ford I had a Chev 2500 and it came with a weight distributing hitch. The Chev didn't sag like the Ford seems to when hitched to the same trailer and the Chev was a gasser with 8,600 lbs gvwr yet my F-250 Super Duty is a diesel with the 10,000 gvwr? So I wonder why the sag? I am guessing the Ford doesn't come with a weight distributing hitch? Anyone know for sure????
your Gm came with a hitch,shank,ball, and WD bars and plates to attach to a trailer?
I put Timbrens on my truck and so far like them. There is no noticeable difference in ride empty and with a load not much sag. I got them at etrailer.com for around $200.00 and free shipping. It was a very easy install as stated above. etrailer has a video you can watch on installing if you want to. The link to the part is below.Timbren Vehicle Suspension for Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty 2011 - TFR250SDG
Do you experience a second jolt after making the Timbrens contact the bump stops? What I call a kick in the butt!
nope just like that they are not even their. the empty ride did not change[/QUOTE]
That's good to hear as I am contemplating another set of Timbrens, and since your 3/4 ton and my dually seem to share the same size rear blocks, maybe I too won't experience the kick in the butt after shock.
I put Timbrens on my truck and so far like them. There is no noticeable difference in ride empty and with a load not much sag. I got them at etrailer.com for around $200.00 and free shipping. It was a very easy install as stated above. etrailer has a video you can watch on installing if you want to. The link to the part is below.Timbren Vehicle Suspension for Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty 2011 - TFR250SDG
Good luck with what you decide to do.
When your talking not much sag when loaded how much weight are you talking about when you load it. Thinking of getting a set of these for my truck.
When your talking not much sag when loaded how much weight are you talking about when you load it. Thinking of getting a set of these for my truck.
I tow a 5Th wheel with 1500 pounds of pin weight. I also tow a 4 horse bumper pull trailer weighing about 9000 pounds loaded (unknown hitch weight). With either of these there is very little drop and I cannot really tell it is on the overloads. My only concern was that the The Timbren company told me that there was supposed to be equal clearance from the bump stops on both sides of the truck after installation and I had less on the drivers side( I called them and they said it would make no difference in performance). I chose Timbrens because of the ease of installing them. I used to use a equalizing hitch towing the horse trailer and now I don't all of the time because there is no sag ( before someone condemns me I also know it is safer to use a equalizing hitch).
nope just like that they are not even their. the empty ride did not change
That's good to hear as I am contemplating another set of Timbrens, and since your 3/4 ton and my dually seem to share the same size rear blocks, maybe I too won't experience the kick in the butt after shock.
Thanks for the feedback. [/QUOTE]
We are missing something here regarding these blocks. And that is spring rate. A dually, while still may have same amount if leafs also has higher spring rate, different frame and two tires per axle. Thus it may not need additional leafs.
I tow a 5Th wheel with 1500 pounds of pin weight. I also tow a 4 horse bumper pull trailer weighing about 9000 pounds loaded (unknown hitch weight). With either of these there is very little drop and I cannot really tell it is on the overloads. My only concern was that the The Timbren company told me that there was supposed to be equal clearance from the bump stops on both sides of the truck after installation and I had less on the drivers side( I called them and they said it would make no difference in performance). I chose Timbrens because of the ease of installing them. I used to use a equalizing hitch towing the horse trailer and now I don't all of the time because there is no sag ( before someone condemns me I also know it is safer to use a equalizing hitch).
Thanks for the info. Going to hook up the Toy hauler tomorrow to see how much sag I have before I order a set
Ok went this morning and hooked up the toy hauler. Truck with nothing in the bed of it sat at 3 1/2 inches hooking up the trailer and the rear end Dropped down to 2 inches tongue weight 900 pounds
Just hook up my bumper pull construction trailer. Without the Timbrens truck sage so bad that the trailer jack drag on the ground. With the Timbrens truck went down one and half inch. Can still see that the truck has weight on the rear end but it is 100% better than it was.
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