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I'm looking at getting one thats a bumper pull, the EWT is 9800 lbs...with 3 cars in it I'm going to easily approach 23-24k total trailer and cars,,,I have a 99 f350 dually PSD but I'm thinking I need to start looking at a 450 or 550?
What do you guys think and what is the tow rating of the 450 and 550?
What year, even the new ones are only rated for 16k conventional bumper IIRC.
Big Al,,,I'm now looking at a 2002 F650 with a Cat and Allison trans, air brakes,exhaust brake and so on. It has a Reese 14K receiver hitch so I guess what I need to find now is a receiver hitch rated to at least 25K. is this even possible? Reese and Curt don't even list them on their websites,,,what would you recommend I do with a conventional style trailer?
i know now I have enough "get up and go" and "bring it to a safe stop" type of truck now so my only dilema is the receiver hitch itsself.
i saw on some towing guides the 650 is rated to 30k but is this number based on using a 5th wheel/gooseneck style trailer?
Is there a particular reason you are looking for a bumper pull trailer of that size/weight?
If so, I don't want to detract from your goal here too much but I do want to offer a couple comments.
First of all, you need to be looking in to a serious weight distributing hitch to go along with it. I don't know that there is a set up out there that will handle what you're looking at pulling otherwise.
Secondly, the truck's handling on the road is going to be questionable - even with a dually - at that weight off the rear of the truck. Conventional trailers of that category are bed-mounted hitches - gooseneck (ball) and 5th wheel (pin, like on a semi and some medium duty trucks). There is a reason - this moves the weight of the front of the trailer directly over top the rear axle of the tow vehicle. With the weight centered over the axle you don't have the added leverage side-to-side that you do in a bumper pull set up.
The stability of bed-mounted hitches is a world of difference over bumper pulls.
The 650 is a beast. But equipped with normal hitch it appears over 10k you would need a 5th wheel. I do know however, you can buy a receiver hitch up to 40k. I know Reese makes a 25k 3" weld on receiver hitch.
Here is from the 2002 towing guide.
Model Max. GVWR Max. GCWR*
F-650 Regular/Super/Crew Cab 26,000 Lbs. 40,000 Lbs.
F-750 Regular/Super/Crew Cab 30,000 Lbs. 45,000 Lbs.
F-750 Regular/Super/Crew Cab 33,000 Lbs. 60,000 Lbs.
* Figures shown are the maximum available for each model. Actual
ratings may be less, depending on your transmission. Check with
your sales consultant for the exact rating on your vehicle.
Note: Applications that exceed 10,000lb trailer rating
require fifth-wheel hitch.
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