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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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helper springs...... Fixed!

I have a 97 F150 that i tow my 77 F-150 mud racer and 30 foot trailer with power wise the truck does fine but it squats the rear end a good bit i was wondering if anyone had a suggestion on a way to help the springs out a little with out breaking the bank and with out lifting the truck up much

heres the load it hauls
 
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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lot's of options if proper loading of your trailer doesn't do it... i.e. move the load on the trailer back if too much tongue weight, move it forward if too little...
(which you should do anyway )

a load leveling hitch
rear air bags
roadmaster active suspension
timbren


but think the real problem may be the f150 you are towing it with....
how much does your trailer and load weigh ?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Yea I know all about the moving the load around but its set as far back as it can be,

id guess the trailer is around 3000 and the trucks in the 4500 range with everything id say 8-8500

and i agree a F250 or 350 would be better but i have the 150, ive been looking at some trucks lately but they want a chunk of change for a dizzle
 
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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I have another trailor that im working on fixing slowely that will most likely help with it since the axle location is closer to the tounge not to mention it is a little bit lighter
 
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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Hellwig makes some really nice load leveling springs that I use on my 1/2 ton. I haul a 24' 5th wheel and it drives just fine.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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any particular model? how did it affect your ride quality when not loaded?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 01:18 AM
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I would use a set of 5000# AirLift Air Springs. That way you can have a stock ride when empty & the load capacity when towing. I used a set on my 86 F250 4x4 & they made all the difference in the world in handling the weight. It relieves the weight off the factory springs. I'm not sure of their cost but check Jegs.com or Summitracing.com that is where I bought mine they were in the $250 range. I ran them for 10 years.
Craig
 
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 01:28 PM
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Turn it around

[quote=77mud;11992189]Yea I know all about the moving the load around but its set as far back as it can be,

Turn the truck around (back it on) so that the front end with engine, etc. are over the trailer axles.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Relocate the rear axle

Originally Posted by 77mud
I have another trailor that im working on fixing slowely that will most likely help with it since the axle location is closer to the tounge not to mention it is a little bit lighter
It might be easier and quicker to move the rear trailer axle to the other side of the front axle.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skscci
Turn the truck around (back it on) so that the front end with engine, etc. are over the trailer axles.
^^^^ Agree - try this

If that doesn't work, the trailer's still got too much tongue weight anyway and you should be looking at a weight distributing hitch, rather than airbags, springs, etc.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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[quote=skscci;11996185]
Originally Posted by 77mud
Yea I know all about the moving the load around but its set as far back as it can be,

Turn the truck around (back it on) so that the front end with engine, etc. are over the trailer axles.
Originally Posted by netaq
^^^^ Agree - try this

If that doesn't work, the trailer's still got too much tongue weight anyway and you should be looking at a weight distributing hitch, rather than airbags, springs, etc.
I thought about backing it on, but hadent tried it mainly because the back window is mostely gone outta the truck so if im pulling into rain of something then itll cover all my gauge's and mainly my Ignition box with water but still may try it next time i get ready to go to the race's
 
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Old Jun 26, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by skscci
It might be easier and quicker to move the rear trailer axle to the other side of the front axle.
Im talking bout i have a totally different trailer that Ive been re welding spring perches on and now all it really needs is new outer boards (2 2x12's or 4 2x6's) and then gonna swap axles on it because there the old Mobile home axle's so either a hub swap or a complete axle swap, either way that trailer is getting fixed because i only have 2 working trailers right now and we have 3 trucks that we haul, when its a local event its nothing to just go back for a second time to pick up the other truck but when your 3.5 hours away its a different story
 
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Roadmaster Active suspension

I put a set of the roadmaster coils http://www.activesuspension.com/imag...f/appguide.pdf on my '06 F150 in March and really surprised how much they helped with the loaded (6500# trailer) and unloaded ride. I had a huge prob with porpoising while towing that mostly went away. Truck handles a lot nicer unloaded, too, especially going through local traffic circles. Able to put 1-1/2 yard of dirt in 5.5 bed, too (2k#?) Holy Frijole! Google says a yard of topsoil weighs around 2400. No way I put over 3k in that poor truck!

full disclosure: I also put rancho 9000xl on the front and rear, but the RAS helps a lot to handle extra weight. Can't remember who I bought them from, maybe $350, but was a lot cheaper than a new truck.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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I thought about backing it on, but hadent tried it mainly because the back window is mostely gone outta the truck so if im pulling into rain of something then itll cover all my gauge's and mainly my Ignition box with water but still may try it next time i get ready to go to the race's
Use a tarp.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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at 75 i dont think a tarp will last real long
 
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