Hello every one. I'm new to this and just started learning about the ford motors(1960-1983 mostly). My father has passed down the family truck. It is a F100 Custom automatic with a 302. I have a 460 scj with zero miles on it. It was built and unfortunately it sat outside for 10 years. I got it to turn over but that's it. It is on a stand waiting to be brought back to life.
So..... My question is.... Where do I start? I want it to have lots of torque. Preferably 6-800 ftlbs. Here are some mods my dad did before it sat.

punched 10 over with TRW - *ten to one - High Compression, , Flat Top Pistons,*
Mild Ford Hi-Po *camshaft with adjustable rocker arms, NEW hydraulic lifters,*(HUGE)*canted intake and exhaust valves.

Don't know much about it but intend on learning about it I side and out. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

 

No such thing as a "460 SCJ" There was a 429SCJ though. Also there are no such thing as .010 over pistons unless someone had them custom made which would be doubtful because of the cost. Most if not all overbores start at .020 over.

 

It is a 460. It's an interceptor motor. It wa build in 1980.

 

No such thing as a 460 Interceptor.

Interceptor was FoMoCo's name for 429 2V's & 4V's installed in 1968 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars & Thunderbird's. Neither engine is anything special.

People see the crescent shaped Interceptor 429 2V or 4V decal on the air cleaner lid, think they've found a HiPo engine. It ain't.

1969: The air cleaner decal now reads either Thunder-Jet 2V or 4V, replacing the Interceptor name. Here again, the engines are nothing special.

1968/71: 460 only available in Lincoln/Mark III. 1972: Lincoln/Mark IV & Thunderbird. By 1973, when the 460 was first offered in Ford/Merc Passenger Cars & F100/350's, the automakers HP race was over.

The 460 4V engines were tuned for emissions standards, all came with EGR valves, many came with smog pumps, put out a whopping 219 net HP.

 

Ok.. a 429 and the 460 are different engines, same block, differnt crank and rods and Heads. SCJ heads are Aluminum and have GIANT Oval intake ports instead of the stock rectangular 460 ports. I believe the bore is the same but they had a shorter stroke. And Sorry Numberdummy, they did make a .010 over piston! .010,.020.030.040 and .060 over sized.... They were just VERY RARELY USED. Especially in Fords. They Used a VERY mild iron back in those days, so a Ford would Usually Barely clean-up at .030.

There was no 460 SCJ. they were 429's The Major Thing that makes them a SCJ is the HEADS! and 429 scj engine Running is worth somewheres in the range of 12-15k! They also made a 428 cj which is basicly a 390 with a differnt crank and again, the heads!
The "Intercepter" Engine was specialy designed for Police cars. But if I remember correctly, the Police Intercepter engines were 428's. The 429's came out in the Mach Mustangs, and some special order others.
But anyways.. I dont know why the arguing? If the man has a 429 SCJ, AWSOME FOR HIM!! Wish I did!! I have been fortunate to have rebuilt 3 in my day (none mine of course) but I have always been on the lookout for them. Found a Locked up core in Az, for $7500.
So, I forget, what was your question? Where to start to get it running? TEAR IT APPART! if it has set for that long, its probably rusted cylinder walls, crank, rods, and whatever else... and that way, you can verify that it is a true 429 SCJ and not a 460 with 429 heads stuck on it.
But, getting 600ft-lbs tourque out of it shouldn't be a prob. The old Ford 'Y' Blocks were Notorice for thier tourque!
Was an Automotive machinist for 6 years in the early 90's. And tried it again in 2008 but my back was shot by then.... Sux, cause I loved doing that! Anyways. Thats my opinion.

 

I never said one word about .010 pistons.

 

One way to verify if it has SCJ heads is the casting number, located just under the valve cover rail between the center exhaust ports.

Post that number up so we know what you have.

Personally, I'd do a complete tear down and inspect it.

 

I don't want to discourage you, but...if it sat outside for 10 years, I second a complete tear down.

Even if EVERY component had been covered with a long-term protectant (like LPS), rust is going to get into stuff and cause all sorts of problems.

If the motor really does have NO mileage on it, that means the camshaft wasn't even broken in - and probably that the lifters were never primed. If that's the case, then a lot of the valve train may need to be replaced.

It's not a horrible job - I've replaced a cam/lifters/main & rod bearings/almost everything else with a motor still in a truck - having it out means it's a ton easier!

But, if it's been sitting outside for 10 years, it's almost certainly going to need a lot of new parts. I would replace the bearings, timing chain, cam, lifters, and check the cylinder walls for rust/scale. If the motor wasn't exactly at TDC, one of the valves may have been open - if that's the case, that cylinder will almost certainly need to be refinished, which would probably mean you'd need new pistons for the whole thing. To refinish the cylinder walls, you're going to have to pull the heads - while they're off, you'll get to do head gaskets.

It's not horrible - if you have most of the hard/expensive parts (decent block, heads, intake) the rest is simple stuff. I kinda wish I had a spare 460 laying around!!

Also - like was said - let us know what the casting number is on the heads. Like Ford79 said, it's a number on top of the cylinder heads near the valve cover - should read something like this:

D3VE (Letter, number, V, E)

Other examples you may find would be D0OE-R, D0VE, C9VE, and D2VE.

Let us know what you've got!
-brad

 

SCJ heads were iron on the production motor of '70 & '71. The later Ford Racing aftermarket SCJ heads were aluminum. 429 and 460 used the same connecting rod, just the crank and pistons were different. If you can find a link to a .010 over pistin we'd all like to see that, I'm not saying no one ever made one, it's just not something I ever come across with any of my suppliers. You can have any piston custom made and if it is a rare block I would advise it if it cleans up there. The iron of those days in big block Fords was fine. I've literally bored thousands of cylinders over the years and I can assure you they are not soft.There are more "major things" between the SCJ and a 429 than the heads. Higher compression forged pistons, heavy duty connecting rods, a 4 bolt main bearing block, intake manifold and carb & camshaft etc.

 

Well, I have been out of the bussiness for a long time. back in 89-92 they did make .010 overs but without doing a lot of research, I cant say that they even do make them anymore. Because without buying a new block from Ford, there probably arn't many stock blocks left out there. As for all the other difffrences.. I was only desribing the Obviouse diffrences as the guy didnt know anything about the engine... I didn't think getting into the specifics of the internals would be of much help. As for the Iron 429 heads, I didn't know they put those on the Performance 429's. I had only seen those on the 429 Truck engines. And the differnce in the Hardness of Ford cast iron in the Older blocks were Notorously soft! As compared to a Chevy or even Dodge/chrysler block. But there is no need to argue. I was only giving a BASIC differnce in the two engines for the guy. Thats all. The rest to someone who knows more about the workings of engines, It would be obvious that the cam, rods, springs, retainers, keepers and all that would be of higher strength.
So, Sorry if I offended an hard-core 429 owners out there! All I know is I would REALLY love to have one! But I suppose I will just stick to my 390 and make me a 428.
Thanx

 

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1968/71: 460 only available in Lincoln/Mark III. 1972: Lincoln/Mark IV & Thunderbird.


these were the 365 hp one's if I'm correct right?

 

Sorry Guy! Wrong name... My Bad. Yours was just the last post I read..
SORRY!