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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Sound System upgrade advice.

Got a 07 Crew cab super duty with a basic stock sound system. Has only a single disk cd player and doesn't even play MP3's lol. Looking into a double din Nav head unit and some door speakers. I want to do some sort a component system that sounds good but I don't want to break the bank. What setups have made some good sounding tunes for you? Where is a good place to mount the tweeters or is there some place that makes a good tweeter pod? I do plan to add main channel amp and sub amp and small box and sub to try and get full range audio system in this thing. For now I am just doing the front door speakers and head unit. Amp will depend on speakers.Thanks for any help you can give me.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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1 sheet of 3/4 inch mdf yielded me a center console that houses 1 downward firing 10" sub... like 50$ from wall mart. i took out my back seat to make room for my tools and gear... but i coud have fit the back box behind the seat if it were still there... it fits into the little pocket between the floor and the hump in the interior trim panel just before the bottom of the rear window... it has 2 alpine 6x9's and i did some acoustical trickery to separate the channels inside the box, and both boxes are sealed.. no porting.
each box is driven by its own wall mart cheapo amp and fed by rca cable from the back of the deck(dvd player and all that... came with it... some off brand "digitmax")
the added components made the system sound amazing. and cracking the windows about an inch... i can walk a pretty good way down the road and still hear it clear as a bell(with the deafen **** turned up)...
but my truck is my work truck and i work in some awkward positions, situations, etc... and carrying around some sort of music doo dad while im trying to work oin something generally isnt an option... so my truck needs a loud audio system... (thats just what i say to justify the time it took me to build it )

handy on the beach tho!
heck.. if yer in, or gonna be in texas and dont mind having a custom box built for your truck... i got all the toolin if you wanna pick up a sheet of mdf!

xtof
 
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Dude, by the time you get to my age....... it just dont matter. Get a nice "packaged" system and love the tunes you have, ....... it aint Carnagie Hall.


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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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I went with a Kenwood Excelon deck, 2 10" Excelon subs, nice big box behind my rear seats(non ported) and a 500 watt Excelon amp. Installed for $934.55. It sounds great, and I would like to add 4 new door speakers and another 4 channel amp down the road. If I had to do it all over again, I wouldnt change a thing. I didnt get EXACTLY what I wanted, because I didn't want to spend 3k on a god-like system. but I stuck to my budget and got great results.

Good luck with your purchase
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:05 AM
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Pioneer is making nice head units that are getting very positive reviews everywhere for function and sound quality. I don't have the link now, but I thing it was a 3300BT or something like that. I'd do the head unit before anything else (leave an amp connection easy to get to), then work your way back as needed.
  1. I suggest a unit with the SD card reader and be done with Ipod cords, disks (disks are dinosaurs), and clumsy USB thumb drives forever.
  2. Bluetooth with mic for hands-free phone.
  3. BACKUP CAM! Nothing keeps the home front quiet like a backup cam when backing to a trailer.
  4. Touch-screens are really cool - until you try to control them in a moving vehicle. Make sure you get a remote - using it makes it way easier to keep your eyes on the road.
  5. NAV is expensive on these - portable units (TomTom, Garmin, etc...) are much cheaper.
  6. HD radio works in town, not out of town.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 07:17 AM
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I have a Kenwood in my truck with JL and Pioneer speakers sounds great. My company truck has a Pioneer with Pioneer speakers, sounds good. I like the Kenwood much better than the Pioneer
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 08:16 AM
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I am amazed at the quality of my Pioneer head unit driving two-way Pioneer speakers in the front doors. Could use a little bit more bottom-end, for but a $170 head unit (came with bluetooth builtin, USB/iPod(iPad), 50 watts peak, 22RMS, it's a blast. I think the speakers were $40 or $50. It'll even bridge the rear speakers to drive a 70watt sub.

I can turn it up loud enough that it hurts, while still sounding 100% perfect. What more do I need? A little more bass punch. With a 70-watt sub it will probably be perfect.

And yes, I've done all the high-watt bass, aluminum tweeter, equalizer/crossover stuff over the years. My home system is custom built. Can't get over how this Pioneer sounds in my truck.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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Here's a link to a post I did in another thread about my upgrade. It's a cheap Chinese touchscreen I found on eBay for a little over $200 with just about every option you can think of. DVD/NAV/MP3/CD/Cam/Bluetooth. Installation was a breeze.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...l#post11916416
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Christof13T
1 sheet of 3/4 inch mdf yielded me a center console that houses 1 downward firing 10" sub... like 50$ from wall mart. i took out my back seat to make room for my tools and gear... but i coud have fit the back box behind the seat if it were still there... it fits into the little pocket between the floor and the hump in the interior trim panel just before the bottom of the rear window... it has 2 alpine 6x9's and i did some acoustical trickery to separate the channels inside the box, and both boxes are sealed.. no porting.
each box is driven by its own wall mart cheapo amp and fed by rca cable from the back of the deck(dvd player and all that... came with it... some off brand "digitmax")
the added components made the system sound amazing. and cracking the windows about an inch... i can walk a pretty good way down the road and still hear it clear as a bell(with the deafen **** turned up)...
but my truck is my work truck and i work in some awkward positions, situations, etc... and carrying around some sort of music doo dad while im trying to work oin something generally isnt an option... so my truck needs a loud audio system... (thats just what i say to justify the time it took me to build it )

handy on the beach tho!
heck.. if yer in, or gonna be in texas and dont mind having a custom box built for your truck... i got all the toolin if you wanna pick up a sheet of mdf!

xtof
LOL yea I thought about the center console thing but I think I wanna go with the sub in the rear with an amp rack to keep it all out of the way. What components did you use?



Originally Posted by ZekeD
Dude, by the time you get to my age....... it just dont matter. Get a nice "packaged" system and love the tunes you have, ....... it aint Carnagie Hall.


Zeke
Yea I'm not looking to rattle the fillings out of my neighbors but I like decent sound.

Originally Posted by 2008fordguy
I went with a Kenwood Excelon deck, 2 10" Excelon subs, nice big box behind my rear seats(non ported) and a 500 watt Excelon amp. Installed for $934.55. It sounds great, and I would like to add 4 new door speakers and another 4 channel amp down the road. If I had to do it all over again, I wouldnt change a thing. I didnt get EXACTLY what I wanted, because I didn't want to spend 3k on a god-like system. but I stuck to my budget and got great results.

Good luck with your purchase
Yea I have been hearing alot of good things about the kenwoods. Going to go look at one today as well as a pioneer.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tugly
Pioneer is making nice head units that are getting very positive reviews everywhere for function and sound quality. I don't have the link now, but I thing it was a 3300BT or something like that. I'd do the head unit before anything else (leave an amp connection easy to get to), then work your way back as needed.
  1. I suggest a unit with the SD card reader and be done with Ipod cords, disks (disks are dinosaurs), and clumsy USB thumb drives forever.
  2. Bluetooth with mic for hands-free phone.
  3. BACKUP CAM! Nothing keeps the home front quiet like a backup cam when backing to a trailer.
  4. Touch-screens are really cool - until you try to control them in a moving vehicle. Make sure you get a remote - using it makes it way easier to keep your eyes on the road.
  5. NAV is expensive on these - portable units (TomTom, Garmin, etc...) are much cheaper.
  6. HD radio works in town, not out of town.

Yea I have a setup in my old Tahoe that had the SD card slot and that is all I used. It also had a USB that from time to time I would run pandora off the Iphone.


Originally Posted by Krewat
I am amazed at the quality of my Pioneer head unit driving two-way Pioneer speakers in the front doors. Could use a little bit more bottom-end, for but a $170 head unit (came with bluetooth builtin, USB/iPod(iPad), 50 watts peak, 22RMS, it's a blast. I think the speakers were $40 or $50. It'll even bridge the rear speakers to drive a 70watt sub.

I can turn it up loud enough that it hurts, while still sounding 100% perfect. What more do I need? A little more bass punch. With a 70-watt sub it will probably be perfect.

And yes, I've done all the high-watt bass, aluminum tweeter, equalizer/crossover stuff over the years. My home system is custom built. Can't get over how this Pioneer sounds in my truck.
Ya know I always loved the sound quality out of a pioneer head unit but the displays were so cheap for the longest time. looks like they are changing that. Also I have heard that pioneer speakers are getting WAY better now days. Their highs have always been good but mid range and lows always seemed to fall a bit flat. I need to go listen to some again.


Originally Posted by RPM371
Here's a link to a post I did in another thread about my upgrade. It's a cheap Chinese touchscreen I found on eBay for a little over $200 with just about every option you can think of. DVD/NAV/MP3/CD/Cam/Bluetooth. Installation was a breeze.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...l#post11916416
I saw those a couple of months ago and I was trying to figure out if it was an ebay scam or not. Works good?
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jaycenk
I saw those a couple of months ago and I was trying to figure out if it was an ebay scam or not. Works good?
Works great. Definitely not a top of the line unit, but it's lightyears better than what I had and the price was right.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 10:25 AM
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components in my system are the cheapest i could get and still achieve what i wanted..

the sub in the center console is a 10" pioneer blue cone.. no porting in the box.
it has a pyramid 200w amp bridged.

the rear box has 2 alpine 6x9's and is driven by a wall mart cheapo amp... 40$ or so.. and its also a 200w.

with the sub in the center, the sound is beautifully balanced. the 6x9's in the rear box more or less take over for the rear speakers, but not completely cancel them out.. makes for nifty surround effects.

for power to both amps i mounted a scosch 5k mfd capacitor with a digital voltage readout.. the most expensive component in my system... was like 70$ at wally world.

amps are fed signal from the deck by rca cable.

my 6x9's are pretty old... and i finally blew one of them.. so im thinking about replacing that box with another sub box with 2 12" pioneers on the same amp switched to wide band. (both highs and lows coming from amp) i want the machine gun bass in some of the heavy metal stuff to thump my blood pumper when i turn up the party ****.

xtof
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 12:05 AM
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So i just swapped out the box with the 6x9's with a sealed brick housing 2 12" pioneers with the same cheapo amp... (vr3) and... mudder of god.
These trucks are rock solid and ready for seriously deafening beats.
I was thumping on my cab with all windows up at a solid 180db at 750-1khz and nothing was vibrating... no fuzz... crystal clear. And my truck is sitting just shy of 400k miles.

Thank you,
Please drive through...

Xtof
 
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Old Jun 10, 2012 | 08:00 AM
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lol nice. Love the sound of a pair of good 12's
 
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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