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Old May 29, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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shift kit/driveline upgrades?

Again you must forgive the noobish questions, this will be my first project older then the early nineties.

85 F250, 460 big block, factory lsd...for that matter what kind of transmission is in my truck? Its a auto but I have yet to drive it. Still under the knife (which means I haven't had time to turn a wrench on her in months and I'm waiting for a carb kit from Holley directly and they are taking forever about it).

Anyway, I'm trying to assemble a parts list for this project like I always do, and I was wanting to know what are the drivetrain upgrades I can do that wouldn't sacrifice streetability terribley. Something like a shift kit would be great. Many a mild stall converter? Idk much about building a V8 old school anything.
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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probobly a C6 but you need to get under the truck and look.
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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If it's stock...it's a C6

A shift kit can make it shift firmer and a stall might allow you to burn up some tires easier. BTW...your converter comes with a stall from the factory, probably around 1000 RPM. When people talk about putting a stall converter in, that usually means they are putting a higher stall in. Unless you're racing the thing...you not going to accomplish much except maybe burn up some more gas.

All depends on what you want to do with it...it's an F250...Not ideal for racing
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by luthoro
Again you must forgive the noobish questions, this will be my first project older then the early nineties.

85 F250, 460 big block, factory lsd...for that matter what kind of transmission is in my truck? Its a auto but I have yet to drive it. Still under the knife (which means I haven't had time to turn a wrench on her in months and I'm waiting for a carb kit from Holley directly and they are taking forever about it).

Anyway, I'm trying to assemble a parts list for this project like I always do, and I was wanting to know what are the drivetrain upgrades I can do that wouldn't sacrifice streetability terribley. Something like a shift kit would be great. Many a mild stall converter? Idk much about building a V8 old school anything.
I am curious to know. What are your expectations by installing a shift kit? How about the stall converter? What is your overall plan for this truck, and how do these modifications fit into that plan?
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 09:19 PM
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Alright thanks yall. Sorry to come off like an idiot its just unfamiliar territory...BTW i know what a shift kit is i was just asking if they make one my transmission.

As far as my plan for the truck, not much. Its for not racing, thats what the Accord is for haha. Basically just do a few things to the drivetrain, clean up the body...it will occasionally haul wood or tow a car but its mostly just for fun
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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As Kevin said, when people use the term "stall converter" they really should be saying "high stall converter". But, I'm convinced that 90% of the people that say that have no clue what they are talking about.

For a truck I would say a high-stall converter would be the absolute last thing someone would want to do - especially with a 460. You already have all the torque you should need with that engine.

Most of us are looking for reducing the losses in the driveline because of the efficiency losses and extra heat they cause. Detroit went to lock-up style converters because of the losses in standard stall converters, but high-stall have even more loss. And, every single bit of that loss turns into heat in your transmission. Ask anyone that knows - heat is the #1 killer of transmissions.

So, if you are getting the idea I think a high-stall converter is foolish, or maybe fuelish, then you've picked up on it. And, if you didn't pick up on it then I've not hammered the idea hard enough.
 
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Old May 29, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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There are plenty of companies that make shift kits for the C6. I have seen too many people put shift kits in and then they hate it cause it shifts so hard it chirps the tires even at low throttle and jerks the truck. And when it is raining, that chirp can cause a spinout. This hard of a shift may seem cool, but it is very hard on the trans and driveline. High stall converters are for racing and have no purpose in a truck, unless that truck is built for the dragstrip. Your stock converter will be fine for all the driving (haul wood/tow car) you mentioned.

If I were you, I would just worry about making it run the best it can, tuneup/oil/filters/trans fluid and filter/plugs, etc. Put on a better breathing exhaust, a trans cooler, and call it good.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by luthoro
Alright thanks yall. Sorry to come off like an idiot its just unfamiliar territory...BTW i know what a shift kit is i was just asking if they make one my transmission.

As far as my plan for the truck, not much. Its for not racing, thats what the Accord is for haha. Basically just do a few things to the drivetrain, clean up the body...it will occasionally haul wood or tow a car but its mostly just for fun
I agree with Gary and Don and the rest of the guys. You don't need anything else in your transmission.

My 76 is a daily driver and a HARD WORKER. I pull a 20 ft utility trl and also have a 18 ft car hauler.

I did install an aux transmission cooler, just for insurance. The 460 with the C6 will pull more than your GVW even thought about covering.

My opinion is to USE and ENJOY. Good Luck. Trav.
 
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Old May 30, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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I can't remember what the VIN digit was off the top of my head, but i remember in the decoder i had the highest available 3/4 ton GVWR...i still think a shift would be nice, and yeah the aux trans cooler is a great idea thanks for that.

Edit: alright I'll just throw a B&M shift improver kit in there...good enough for me
 
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