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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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injector install, something doesn't look right???

So I replaced #1 injector, it doesn't look like it seated all the way??? The cup was clean and hold down bolt socket was clean also. I hand tightened to seat the o-rings, then torqued it. It seems like it is an 1/8" higher than the others. What do you think? Is it right?

 
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:02 PM
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Hard to really tell looking on this side the screen

Are you shure the Copper combustion washer came out with the old injector
 
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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That was gonna be my first question.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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and make shure the injector hold down Bolt Hole is cleaN

if any oil in the hold down bolt hole the hold down bolt will acheive torq before the injector is seated properly
 
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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yep, cleaned the injector cups and hold down. The copper washer came out with the old one
 
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Old Apr 26, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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Did you remove the rubber tip from the end of the new injector?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:02 AM
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I worked with a guy years back that did that.Put 6 injectors in all with the rubber cap on the tip.I can still hear him complaining "Why are they so Freakin hard to put in".Personaly I didn't think it was posible till I saw it done.
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:50 AM
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Basing it on the height next to the rocker it's to high. Pull it out and check everything again. It won't hurt to pull it once.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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Basing it on the height next to the rocker it's to high. Pull it out and check everything again. It won't hurt to pull it once.

I did that already, but will do it again just to make sure.

Critter, yep pulled the rubber caps. I almost forgot, but before I installed I compared it against the old one, and was like yea I can't forget about that
 
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dlibson
Basing it on the height next to the rocker it's to high. Pull it out and check everything again. It won't hurt to pull it once.

MAN you have GOOD EYES Dave

with the angle he took the pic I couldnt tell

Triple check that Bolt HOLE not to worried about the Holddown or Bolt itself
JUST THE HOLE
 
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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If your comparing it to the rocker on #3 it looks like the valves are closed on #3 and open on #1 just making the injector look higher.
 
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Originally Posted by Will Bite
If your comparing it to the rocker on #3 it looks like the valves are closed on #3 and open on #1 just making the injector look higher.
probably onto something here if thats where there looking at the rocker or bridge

I was trying to compare it to the OUTER ROCKER CARRIER CASE but the camera is not at the right angle but still trying to compare off a Stationary point

IMO the camera picture is at a BAD angle to really tell anything

need to position the camera difffrent to be able to tell anything over the net


IMO if you know there is only 1 copper washer on and tip protector isnt on dont think it would fit with protector on anyway and the injector is seated FIRMLY in the Injector holdown and injector cup your good to go

I torq mine to 26ft/lbs on the hold downs and no issue I think some guys are even going 28ft/lbs now IIRC
 
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 09:57 PM
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Yea I know its a bad picture, tough to get a decent pic.

So I did take it back out and even installed the the old injector. Same position.

A ford tech told me there is an alignment dowel for the bolt and suspects the dowel and bolt has backed out and reccomends replacing the hold down.

I am not exactly sure what part he is talking about though if it is the hold down clamp or where it bolts in.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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How did the injector Fail???

If the copper combustion seal was Burned up and gone when you pulled the injector the holddown/bolt may have Backed out or something like that and The holddown and bolt should be replaced or thats what the techs usualy recomend if this condition exists.

IMO if it still had 1/8 to go before it was properly seated against the injector cup you could wiggle the injector alittle vs the injector feeling Solid when seated. And then again maybe not IDK never tried it.

All I do know as I was tightening the hold down it would get to a certain point and you could tell the injector Droped into the right spot.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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Anybody know the part # for the hold-down assembly?
 
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