Nice truck! I scored my 78 F100 for 900 and it even ran!

But whatever you do don't scrap it, post it on Craigslist as a parts truck. If you were close I'd come buy what you didn't need so it wouldn't have to be crushed.

 

my internet sucks so i lost everything i wrote .. but here's the short version:

do a search for "running bear" in this section and you'll see what i mean by "spit and shine"

do all of that, and you are looking at a $5k truck, especially if you have the elite marti report that shows you that your truck is 1 of 1or2.

sweat equity, a good collector's car appraisal, and the right buyer will greatly increase your value,

getting it running and not much more, and it's not going to be anywhere near that much.

not trying to talk out of both sides of my mouth, just talking about two completely different conditions.

 

fair enough, i know better than to argue with you you have a nasty habit of being right

I would LOVE to get my hands on some sales brochures, but for the time being this is all i have.

I'm not going to go through the trouble of finding all the threads, but all of the information I posted came from threads within this forum. the misinformation regarding the T/S and C/S packages is astonishing.

i will say, nearly all of the pictures of camper special badges i have seen are on the front fender below the marker light,

this is where it all began:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...al-badges.html

and some more:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...heel-base.html (where were you bill?!?!?)

you know i love ya, right?

 

All 1973/79 F100/350's (1978/79 Bronco's) have the amber marker lamps (D3TZ-15A201-A ~ R/L same) located at the front sides of the front fenders, within the 'dent.'

There are no emblems of any kind located below these lamps.

While probably scarce elsewhere, these trucks are somewhat common here in LA LA Land. Last time it snowed here was September 1949! No snow, no salt on the roads, no rust.

Last year, there was an all original, two owner 1974 S/CS for sale in La Habra, 460/C6, dealer A/C, gen-u-ine Ford camper shell: $2,000.00. No CA smog test required on 1975 and older vehicles.

It sat for months at a gas station on Harbor Blvd, a major thoroughfare that runs from the ocean in Huntington Beach north thru Anaheim, past Disneyland to Whittier Blvd.

I informed members of FTE's SoCal Chapter...ho hum, no one wanted it. I kept tabs on it, a gardner finally bought it, probably noticed it, because there's a Home Depot one block north of the gas station.

And btw: Do not believe the miles shown on the odometers of these trucks. The odometers read to 99,999.9 then return to ZERO.

 

Nice score indeed. If you need doors that badly, I have a nice pair (on the right coast, tho'!)

I'd love a 140" w/b '79 from So-Calif. But I'm OK with a '97 F350 4-wheel.

 

The yellow truck is a 79 F350 with a 460, C6, 140" w/b, 34" frame and concealed spare tire carrier. It carries neither c/s nor t/s badges. The vin is F35jrdj3647.

I have yet to order a Marti report, but are you saying this is a c/s?

 

Letters in VIN's are capitalized. It can be difficult making out small case letters when one has 67 year old eyes! I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Jermafenser has the same problemo.

F35 = F350 2WD Pickup / J = 460 4V / R = San Jose CA Assembly Plant / DJ3647 = 1979.

There are no codes within the VIN, nor stamped on the Warranty Plate that define a Super Camper Special, Camper or Trailer Special.

Your truck is 33 years old, so who knows what badges it came with originally? They may have gone bye bye decades ago.

The only way to find out is to contact Marti (martiauto.com), request a build sheet. Be aware that Marti charges a fee for his services

btw: It's the distance between the INNER rear frame rails behind the cab that determine if they are 33 1/2" or 37 1/2." No such thing as 34" rails.

33 1/2" rear frame rails: 1973/77 F250 4WD's (all High Boys) / 1973/79 F350's on the 140" wheelbase.

37 1/2" rear frame rails: All 1973/79 F100/350's except as noted above.

 

Glad to see you're still fighting the good fight NumberDummy
-Chris

 

This is my 79 TS,has the usa emblem on the gate.It is rated at 7900 gvwr?,that is what it says on the door panel.I have seen CS at 81 at 8400,reg cab.

 

Thanks Bill!

I wasn't sure how the frame width was measured, but I knew it was closer to 34 than to 37-1/2, so that's what I went with.

Actually, I knew that because I bought a receiver hitch that was supposed to fit all 73-39 F-Series, but was too wide. It fit the F-150 though!

Sorry about the non-caps.

I guess I'll be ordering up a Marti report...

 

Please consider this for what it is, an search for honest and accurate information,

so with that said, if what you said above about the emblems is true (and i have no reason not to belive you as your reputation stands before you) .. it does leave many images i have seen on this fourm and online at large unexplained

1979 Ford Truck Brochure

in the above link, there are 4 pictures in which there is an emblem clearly mounted below the front corner light. This picture can be found in many places and gives no clear indication that it is being "faked" in any way. It is being advertised as page 15 of the 1979 (and also 1978) ford sales brocure.

the truck on the far left is the front clip of a crew cab camper special as indicated on the bottom of page 14 of the same brochure. the bottom right is clearly a 140"WB. while it is not indicated as a camper or trailer special, there does appear to be a badge on the front fender, but not one on the tailgate... although, the picture is not exactly perfect so one could probably argue this one a bit .... the others however, very clearly show a badge on the fender. the truck front and center, oddly has a badge on the cowl and fender, and i admit the one on the fender looks a little wonky (although every version of this picture i found looks the same).

if those pics aren't clear enough, here is pg 13
http://www.fordification.com/library...geViewsIndex=1


which begs the question .... which is correct? badge on front fender, or as never was as you have indicated?

as to the odometer mileage, it is very possible that an odometer showing 70k-90k could be original. in my case, the title i got from the PO said 77k and the "not accurate" or "exceeds mechanical limit" boxes were not checked. this indicates original miles. according to the oil change sticker i found in the truck, it racked up about 30k in the last 22 years ... sounds about right for a big'ole gas-hogin' one-ton truck to me.

is it possible for fraud? sure ... crooks are as crooks do ... but it would have been a lot of work for someone for no gain. could someone have unhooked the speedo for a few years to "save miles" ... sure, but what did it gain? i bought it for 900 bucks, the guy i got it from probably paid 1500 .... why bother.

it is much more likely that the truck got used the way we use our 2004. unless it is needed for its intended purpose, it sits. our 04 has 25k on it, 10k of that was on it when we bout it in 04. extrapolate that out to 30yrs and it might have 90k on it when it is 30yrs old ....

i'm just sayin' ... it is possible, and if the title indicates that it is accurate, there would be no reason to suspect fraud, IMO.

 

Sales brochures are not always accurate.

1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog / Text - Exterior Moulding Section F - Page 1.

All the emblems (Types 1 thru 14) used on 1973/79 F100/350's are shown. Pages 2 and 3 list the part numbers and location for each of these emblems by type.

There is no reference for any of these emblems located below the front marker lamps. Catalog sez: Type 2 1974/ Cab "Camper Special"

This catalog is available on a CD from hipoparts.com. FTE member mikeo0o0o0 has this catalog, scans posts pics from it, ask him to do so.
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Miles shown on odometers might be accurate, might not be. Not only does the odometer roll over to ZERO after 99,999.9, but...

For many years, crooked used/new car dealers and owners alike engaged in the illegal practice of rolling back odometers.

There is no way on these trucks to determine if the speedo's have been removed...or not.

In the 1980's, the US Gov't (NHTSA) mandated that automakers coat the bolts that retained the speedometers with a blue plastic material.

When a tool was placed on these bolts and turned a fraction of an inch, the blue plastic material cracked off.

NHTSA also mandated that when a speedo was removed, a label had to be placed on the A pillar denoting the date/mileage this was done.

btw: When you read thru this brochure, notice that only F350 Regular Cabs were available on the 140" wheelbase.

btw, part II: 1966/79 Bronco parts are listed in the 1965/72 & 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalogs. 1980 was the first year that Bronco parts are listed in the truck parts catalogs.

AFAIK, no member of FTE (with one exception, guess who) has either of these Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalogs. After 1972, all my parts catalogs are on FoMoCo microfiche slides.

 

ok ... so still searching for accurate information.
Body Trim and Emblems - FORDification.com

according to this, the locations you list would be correct for: 1967 and 1970-72, no arguement there. it does not list anything for the 77-79's, nor does it have the badges identified.

so i'm just going to ask the question: which is more likely, that the sale brocure is wrong, and every truck in every picture is reproducing the look in the incorrect sales brochure --or-- the catalogue you are referencing has a misprint/omission?

i do not know the document from which you quote, so i ask the question.

btw ... why tell a guy to go look for original sales brochures if you question their accuracy?

perhaps a different thread would be appropriate? i'll start one if you promise to chime in, i would LOVE to get some of the misinformation that abounds out in the open and get the most accurate info available.

 

That truck is worth at the minimum $2500 in western NY where I live. The bed alone is worth close to a grand here. I assume you live in CA or WA that's why you'd be able to buy it for $300 and think that it's a junker parts truck.

Josh Quick

Quick Speed Shop

 

The document is this specific Ford Truck Parts Catalog. I listed the section/pages where the emblems are listed, said Mikeo0o0o0 can scan pics from this catalog, and does for FTE members, every day.


1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog: (2) C7TZ-16720-H .. R/L Camper Special script nameplate: 1967/79 Camper Special / (2) DOTZ-16720-D .. R/L Camper Special emblem: 1970/72 Camper Special.

Neither of these were used after 1972.