Diff b/t max tow and reg tow on FX4
#1
Diff b/t max tow and reg tow on FX4
I'm trying to build/price a truck and the tow packages are confusing me.
The FX4 comes standard with a tow package and you can also get the max tow for $1000 more (in Canada) What do you get for the extra$$? The only diff that I can see is the max tow has a brake controller and it says 7700lb payload. Is that 7700 payload an increase over the standard payload?
I do want the most towing and payload that I can get as I will be towing a big travel trailer but I don't want to pay $1000 for a brake controller.
Thanks Guys
The FX4 comes standard with a tow package and you can also get the max tow for $1000 more (in Canada) What do you get for the extra$$? The only diff that I can see is the max tow has a brake controller and it says 7700lb payload. Is that 7700 payload an increase over the standard payload?
I do want the most towing and payload that I can get as I will be towing a big travel trailer but I don't want to pay $1000 for a brake controller.
Thanks Guys
#2
IIRC, the regular FX4 comes with 3.73's and the max tow gets you 4.10's
the only thing that bothers me about that is the curb weight of the FX4 might be considerably more than the XLT's, which mandates the 4.10's for the extra towing capacity.
maybe someone knows more about this than I do...
FX4 owners ???? Anyone care to read thier payload sticker and see how it compares to an XLT or Lariat with the same gears????
the only thing that bothers me about that is the curb weight of the FX4 might be considerably more than the XLT's, which mandates the 4.10's for the extra towing capacity.
maybe someone knows more about this than I do...
FX4 owners ???? Anyone care to read thier payload sticker and see how it compares to an XLT or Lariat with the same gears????
#3
#5
The trailer tongue will eat about 1,000 - 1,100 lbs of your payload. A regular FX4 has maybe 1,200 - 1,300 lbs of payload. So if you want to stay within the limits, that would mean the trailer and a driver, that's it. If you want to load anything else (family members, bikes, cooler, generator, firewood, etc), the you'll need that much more.
Now many people just go over. I personally don't think that's a good idea, but that's up to you.
You are right, can't get HD payload with FX4. It would have to be a XLT or Lariat if you'd go that route. Bummer, I know.
Now many people just go over. I personally don't think that's a good idea, but that's up to you.
You are right, can't get HD payload with FX4. It would have to be a XLT or Lariat if you'd go that route. Bummer, I know.
#7
Yeah, it will still most likely eat about 1,000 lbs of your payload, probably a little over that.
My trailer is listed with a dry hitch weight of 440 lbs, it ended up being > 600 lbs with the trailer still empty. Dry hitch weight does not include propane (70 lbs), battery (60lbs for one), or any options (like A/C, water heater, etc.). Nothing in the tanks, and it's not always feasible to tow with empty tanks only. Like a hundred pounds in the water heater. You can't always drain that, and they sits far forward on most trailers.
Also, you may transfer 20% back to the trailer axles with the WDH hitch, but than you need to add ~ 150lbs back in for the hitch itself.
Get the right truck now, believe me! I did not listen to people, and when it didn't feel right, I went to a weigh station. Then I bought a new truck, LOL.
My trailer is listed with a dry hitch weight of 440 lbs, it ended up being > 600 lbs with the trailer still empty. Dry hitch weight does not include propane (70 lbs), battery (60lbs for one), or any options (like A/C, water heater, etc.). Nothing in the tanks, and it's not always feasible to tow with empty tanks only. Like a hundred pounds in the water heater. You can't always drain that, and they sits far forward on most trailers.
Also, you may transfer 20% back to the trailer axles with the WDH hitch, but than you need to add ~ 150lbs back in for the hitch itself.
Get the right truck now, believe me! I did not listen to people, and when it didn't feel right, I went to a weigh station. Then I bought a new truck, LOL.
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#8
[quote=meborder;11575440]IIRC, the regular FX4 comes with 3.73's and the max tow gets you 4.10's
the only thing that bothers me about that is the curb weight of the FX4 might be considerably more than the XLT's, which mandates the 4.10's for the extra towing capacity.
maybe someone knows more about this than I do...
FX4 owners ???? Anyone care to read thier payload sticker and see how it compares to an XLT or Lariat with the same gears????[/quote all fx4's come standard with 3.73, maxtow does not change that ratio, 4.10 is optional on fx4 maxtow or not.
the only thing that bothers me about that is the curb weight of the FX4 might be considerably more than the XLT's, which mandates the 4.10's for the extra towing capacity.
maybe someone knows more about this than I do...
FX4 owners ???? Anyone care to read thier payload sticker and see how it compares to an XLT or Lariat with the same gears????[/quote all fx4's come standard with 3.73, maxtow does not change that ratio, 4.10 is optional on fx4 maxtow or not.
#10
Ya it looks like 1900lbs payload
Dimensions and Capacities
Output ........................................ 365 hp @ 5,000 rpm Torque .................................... 420 lb.-ft. @ 2,500 rpm
1st gear .................................................. . 4.170 2nd gear .................................................. 2.340
3rd gear .................................................. . 1.520 4th gear .................................................. . 1.140
5th gear .................................................. . 0.860 6th gear .................................................. . 0.690
Reverse gear ............................................ 3.400 City/hwy ............................................ 20 mpg/29 mpg
Curb ............................................... 5,876 lbs. GVWR .................................................. ... 7,700 lbs.
Front GAWR .................................... 4,050 lbs. Rear GAWR .................................... 4,050 lbs.
Payloa .................................................. .. 1,900 lbs. Front curb ........................................ 3,341 lbs.
Rear curb ........................................ 2,535 lbs. Front axle ...................................... 4,050 lbs.
Rear axle ...................................... 4,000 lbs. Front spring ....................................... 4,050 lbs.
Rear spring ....................................... 4,050 lbs. Front tire/wheel ............................... 4,050 lbs.
Rear tire/wheel ............................... 4,050 lbs. Towing ........................................ 11,100 lbs.
5th-wheel towing ........................... 11,100 lbs
Dimensions and Capacities
Output ........................................ 365 hp @ 5,000 rpm Torque .................................... 420 lb.-ft. @ 2,500 rpm
1st gear .................................................. . 4.170 2nd gear .................................................. 2.340
3rd gear .................................................. . 1.520 4th gear .................................................. . 1.140
5th gear .................................................. . 0.860 6th gear .................................................. . 0.690
Reverse gear ............................................ 3.400 City/hwy ............................................ 20 mpg/29 mpg
Curb ............................................... 5,876 lbs. GVWR .................................................. ... 7,700 lbs.
Front GAWR .................................... 4,050 lbs. Rear GAWR .................................... 4,050 lbs.
Payloa .................................................. .. 1,900 lbs. Front curb ........................................ 3,341 lbs.
Rear curb ........................................ 2,535 lbs. Front axle ...................................... 4,050 lbs.
Rear axle ...................................... 4,000 lbs. Front spring ....................................... 4,050 lbs.
Rear spring ....................................... 4,050 lbs. Front tire/wheel ............................... 4,050 lbs.
Rear tire/wheel ............................... 4,050 lbs. Towing ........................................ 11,100 lbs.
5th-wheel towing ........................... 11,100 lbs
#11
428, you'll be okay with the max tow's payload depending on how many people you have in the truck, and what (or what not) you put in the bed. You'd have about 600 - 700 lbs for everything else besides the trailer. Don't forget that all aftermarket accessories / mods count also. Bedliner (50 lbs), canopy (300 lbs ?), tonneau, etc.
#12
#13
That makes sense. A comparable super crew and/or longer bed would have a lower number because of the added weight while having the same GVWR of 7,700 lbs.
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