Thank you ! I can't wait to have it done
if I decide to go for the recall I will have them do that.

 

So I stop by my dealer, who has never turned on the DRL's, and he says it will probably take an hour to program because the tech will have to run through a bunch of menus to find the right switch to turn on or off. Does anyone have a logic tree that shows the actual steps to get to the command to turn on or off DRLs? Might save the tech a half hour of hit or miss hunting for the spot to go to.

 

For years, going back all of my driving life, you had 2 positions on the headlight switch. Most were pull out: Position 1 about halfway or at the first detent. This turned on what was commonly referred to as "running lights", front/rear taillights, side marker lights, at full switch on the headlights came on.

I personal choice would be to have all of our amber lights and side marker lights on.

Got this from Larry (just strokin)

. The dealer plugs in the IDS to the OPD2 port, accesses the lighting options in the Small Junction Box, scrolls down and selects DRL

Hope this helps..

 

Another approach........."I don't pay for training"

A shop / tech / worker that has to teach himself a procedure in order to correct the "problem" should not charge for the training time.

I run into this in the computer/network world. If it takes me 2 hours to solve the problem.......and I can look back and be honest with myself, that process should have only taken an hour without the "Training", I only charge for an Hour. It is called ethics.........

 

In my neck of the woods, the half way out position was called "parking lights," and you could get a ticket if your vehicle was moving with them on.

 

Right now this is the biggest scam I know of.

Was taking bids on installing a tankless hot water system. Got some stupid bid asked the guy to justify. He said it used a computer and it had to be programed, so he had to hire a guy to do it for $500 bucks.

Yea it has a computer all right: On/Off, Temp +/-. Not exactly programming in my world.

I have looked over the shoulder at more than one dealer Ford/Chrysler and viewed the dealers laptop. Everything I have seen as they set up a car is either or a toggle (on/off) or its a select function button. No one is programming anything at any dealer...

 

I have heard them called that, no sure as they don't help you park. And ever since they installed flashers which are used for parking you don't need the old style parking lights.

My dad who had been pilot in the Air Force called them properly, "running lights", all planes had them and they were separate from the blinding landing lights.

Friend of mine found a set of landing lights and stuffed them in the grille of his corvette. I was helping him and by the time we were finished it was late one night. So we head out on a stretch of highway on the outskirts of Dallas to try them out. WOW, like the sun being out!!! So he decides to just drive down the road with them on and see how long it take for the other driver to flash his lights. Well, here comes a car and its way out, driver flashes his lights, then again, then a couple of times and we are laughing. Finally it gets close and the guy is flipping like crazy, we are laughing harder, the the Red/Blue lights come on...it was a very $$$$ ticket.

 

yeh, but shop works on job time, all that other stuff doesn't count.
Front office decides how much they are willing to eat (not charge customer)

 

I thought most shops work on flat rate labor these days.

 

documented job (book) time.. they make money if they can finish sooner..

 

Told me this was a 30 minute job, charges will be $49.95, then gave me a $10 discount..

even tho they had the IDS connected for the recall..

 

It must be much more complicated than I thought. I went to two Ford dealers, one of which sold me the truck, and explained what I wanted. Both said the had never heard of DRLs but promised to look into it. It has been ~ 3 weeks now with no word from either.
They DID promise to look into it, and they DID say they would call back as soon as they had the answer...........

I think I will just stick with having my fog lights hooked up to come on and off with the ignition. That works pretty well. I don't get along all that well with electrons so I had it done by an expert along with my LEDs. I don't know exactly what he did but he said was very easy and took him only a few minutes. You might consider that if all else fails.

Either that or buy a Chevy. I believe they all come from the factory with them working.

 

print the tech bulletin from post 29
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15142676

 

That's an interesting work around.

 

Actually fog lights as DRLs works well for me. Lights are stock but I could (I think) go with either LEDs or HIDs if I so desire. I worry the HIDs might be TOO bright for oncoming traffic at night though.

One thing I have noticed is that all LEDs listed at H-19/9145 reportedly won't fit 2015 F-250. Why won't they?
I would think all bulbs be they halogen, LED, or HID, would be interchangeable. It there a difference in length? It seems I read somewhere the HIDs might be too long.
I might be able to change out the whole light fixture if necessary (and available), but don't feel a compelling need to do so at this time.