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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 10:11 PM
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Cool Help! Cam phaser, broken chain guide.

Hello everyone-

I own a 2005 expedition with 122k on the clock. Ive had the cam phaser rattling for some time now and I finally decided to tackle the job. I was a PITA to remove the valve covers, but got I got it done! I was prepared for only replacing the cam phaser then I discovered the chain rail completely loose and chewed up a bit on the driver side.: So I have to remove the front covers, and I have a few questions.

1- how do I remove the clutch and where do I get the wrenches to remove?
2- what do I mod to replace the guides and how do I lock the cams so they do not go out of time?
3- any other special tools I may need?

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Danny
 
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Help

Anyone, bump

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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Timing

So I have come the conclusion I have to remove The front cover. Do you lck the cams in place, if so how? How o youbs timing on a 5.4 3v?

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Dan
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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I have the same knock/clatter in my expedition as well. Let me know if it clears the problem and post pics!! I am going to tackle this myself soon. I cant seem to get a response out of anyone here either.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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As far as help with how to do the job I'd highly reccomend buying the Ford service manuals or getting a monthly online subscription from Helm Inc.

Helm produces the manuals for Ford and they charge everyone the same price, the only difference between you and I is that I have a charge account with them.

See if this helps,

Removal
  1. If servicing the RH camshaft phaser and sprocket, remove the RH camshaft. For additional information, refer to Camshaft — RH in this section.
  1. If servicing the LH camshaft phaser and sprocket, remove the LH camshaft. For additional information, refer to Camshaft — LH in this section.
  1. NOTICE: Damage to the camshaft phaser and sprocket assembly will occur if mishandled or used as a lifting or leveraging device.
    NOTE: Do not remove the Timing Chain Locking Tool at any time during assembly. If the Timing Chain Locking Tool is removed or out of placement, the engine front cover must be removed and the engine must be retimed. For additional information, refer to Timing Drive Components in this section.
    Remove the camshaft phaser and sprocket from the timing chain.
  1. Inspect the front of the camshaft phaser and sprocket for missing or damaged roll pins.
    • If the roll pins are missing or damaged, a new camshaft phaser and sprocket must be installed.
  1. Inspect the rear of the camshaft phaser and sprocket for a deformed or damaged location pin.
    • If the location pin is deformed or damaged, a new camshaft phaser and sprocket must be installed.
  1. Visually inspect the camshaft phaser and sprocket for squareness (A). If the trigger wheel or spring is deformed or damaged (B), install a new camshaft phaser and sprocket.

Installation
  1. NOTICE: Damage to the camshaft phaser and sprocket assembly will occur if mishandled or used as a lifting or leveraging device.
    If installing a new camshaft phaser and sprocket, transfer the original scribe mark to the new camshaft phaser and sprocket.
  1. NOTICE: The timing chain must be installed in its original position onto the camshaft phaser and sprocket using the scribed marks, or damage to valves and pistons will result.
    NOTICE: Damage to the camshaft phaser and sprocket assembly will occur if mishandled or used as a lifting or leveraging device.
    Align the scribe marks and position the camshaft phaser and sprocket into the timing chain.
  1. If servicing the RH camshaft phaser and sprocket, install the RH camshaft. For additional information, refer to Camshaft — RH in this section.
  1. If servicing the LH camshaft phaser and sprocket, install the LH camshaft. For additional information, refer to Camshaft — LH in this section.

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Old Feb 7, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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These might help... take a look at this and this.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Does anyone know if these are any better?? Or if they'll replace the cam phasers and all?? Can't really tell much by looking at pictures on here considering I haven't actually taken my valve covers off yet, but i've got an 05 Navigator with the 5.4. Any help would be much appreciated though with this whole cam phaser issue

COMP Cams 10246LH Ford Adjustable Cam Gear Set
 
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Old Aug 27, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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found this post while I was looking for some help with my truck. I have an '05 expedition and I decided to fix what has been diagnosed as a bad cam phaser, well I finally got the valve cover off of the passenger side and noticed that the chain tensioners are gone. Chain is tight as a drum. I guess I am going to have to remove the front covers, is that correct?
 
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