problem with cam phazers
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problem with cam phazers
I have a 05 f150 5.4 triton I was told it a problem with sludge causing a problem with the cam phazer. I change the oil every 4 to 5k . been told by one ford dealer i need a new engine also been told by another dealer all i need is for the engine to be flushed out new phazer and vct install. I only 66,700 miles on the truck bought it in 07 with 23,700 miles . My ext. warranty company is not wanting cover the repair because of the small amount for sludge the dealer found in the valve cover and small amount in the valley by the cam on number 2 bank. even though i change my oil at 4 to 5k my self the warranty company said with out receipts from where i brought the filter and oil its out my pocket for the repair have any one had the same issue. One mech at local ford dealer said he has seen this before in this model engine. any suggestion would welcomed
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I have a 05 f150 5.4 triton I was told it a problem with sludge causing a problem with the cam phazer. I change the oil every 4 to 5k . been told by one ford dealer i need a new engine also been told by another dealer all i need is for the engine to be flushed out new phazer and vct install. I only 66,700 miles on the truck bought it in 07 with 23,700 miles . My ext. warranty company is not wanting cover the repair because of the small amount for sludge the dealer found in the valve cover and small amount in the valley by the cam on number 2 bank. even though i change my oil at 4 to 5k my self the warranty company said with out receipts from where i brought the filter and oil its out my pocket for the repair have any one had the same issue. One mech at local ford dealer said he has seen this before in this model engine. any suggestion would welcomed
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The problem is that it's a terrible design. One that Ford completely abandons the owner on. They must know that there will be problems for as long as the truck is on the road but they offer no remedy beyond the routine warranty repair. Once the warranty period is over you're left holding the bag.
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Uuuuughhhh
Just took mine to the mechanic today. he said he could change the phasers if i wanted him to, but it probably won't solve the problem. he said "the three valve engines are junk" said he change phasers two times recently didn't fix problem. he says there is probably slack somewhere in the crankshaft that causes oil pressure drop...... phasers work of oil pressure.
He said over time it would get worse and eventually i could use the engine as a boat anchor. right now the engine has lost it's pep and i get 11-12mpg
Anyway he said for around $6,600 he could put a new engine in with a 3 yr 100k warranty.
There was another customer in at the same time I was there. He said that had two of the new engines put in. i think he had fleet vehicles.
Thank you Ford Motor company; A bought lesson is a well learned lesson.
He said over time it would get worse and eventually i could use the engine as a boat anchor. right now the engine has lost it's pep and i get 11-12mpg
Anyway he said for around $6,600 he could put a new engine in with a 3 yr 100k warranty.
There was another customer in at the same time I was there. He said that had two of the new engines put in. i think he had fleet vehicles.
Thank you Ford Motor company; A bought lesson is a well learned lesson.
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Just took mine to the mechanic today. he said he could change the phasers if i wanted him to, but it probably won't solve the problem. he said "the three valve engines are junk" said he change phasers two times recently didn't fix problem. he says there is probably slack somewhere in the crankshaft that causes oil pressure drop...... phasers work of oil pressure.
He said over time it would get worse and eventually i could use the engine as a boat anchor. right now the engine has lost it's pep and i get 11-12mpg
Anyway he said for around $6,600 he could put a new engine in with a 3 yr 100k warranty.
There was another customer in at the same time I was there. He said that had two of the new engines put in. i think he had fleet vehicles.
Thank you Ford Motor company; A bought lesson is a well learned lesson.
He said over time it would get worse and eventually i could use the engine as a boat anchor. right now the engine has lost it's pep and i get 11-12mpg
Anyway he said for around $6,600 he could put a new engine in with a 3 yr 100k warranty.
There was another customer in at the same time I was there. He said that had two of the new engines put in. i think he had fleet vehicles.
Thank you Ford Motor company; A bought lesson is a well learned lesson.
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well
mine isn't going strong..... it's a dog weak weak weak.....11mpg, putting around.
rattles like a powerstroke at around 1100 rpm.
ford garage says $2600 +/- for cam phaser job but they want to look at it to determine the best route.
garage today says he hasn't had any luck replacing phasers. he would do it but if it doesn't work that's $2600 then $6500 for reman engine and install. that equal out to $9100. plus i just spent $420 at another shop today on cam position sensors (waste of money). I don't know bout you folks but I ain't got $10grand in my back pocket right now.
anybody want to buy a 2005 f150 screw 4X4?
rattles like a powerstroke at around 1100 rpm.
ford garage says $2600 +/- for cam phaser job but they want to look at it to determine the best route.
garage today says he hasn't had any luck replacing phasers. he would do it but if it doesn't work that's $2600 then $6500 for reman engine and install. that equal out to $9100. plus i just spent $420 at another shop today on cam position sensors (waste of money). I don't know bout you folks but I ain't got $10grand in my back pocket right now.
anybody want to buy a 2005 f150 screw 4X4?
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I have had a minor ticking ad idle. but 2 weeks ago it started to miss like i had happen when i had fuel injector problems. Had to have 3 injectors on back 1 replaced. when it started to miss i took it stright to one of the local parts store they put code reader on it found three codes #1 cylinder plug , oxy senser, and one i cant remember. took to local ford dealer that who said it had a problem with the phazers due to what they say is a sludge probelm
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mine isn't going strong..... it's a dog weak weak weak.....11mpg, putting around.
rattles like a powerstroke at around 1100 rpm.
ford garage says $2600 +/- for cam phaser job but they want to look at it to determine the best route.
garage today says he hasn't had any luck replacing phasers. he would do it but if it doesn't work that's $2600 then $6500 for reman engine and install. that equal out to $9100. plus i just spent $420 at another shop today on cam position sensors (waste of money). I don't know bout you folks but I ain't got $10grand in my back pocket right now.
anybody want to buy a 2005 f150 screw 4X4?
rattles like a powerstroke at around 1100 rpm.
ford garage says $2600 +/- for cam phaser job but they want to look at it to determine the best route.
garage today says he hasn't had any luck replacing phasers. he would do it but if it doesn't work that's $2600 then $6500 for reman engine and install. that equal out to $9100. plus i just spent $420 at another shop today on cam position sensors (waste of money). I don't know bout you folks but I ain't got $10grand in my back pocket right now.
anybody want to buy a 2005 f150 screw 4X4?
My truck was a slug and only getting around 11 mpgs when I first got it and it was new, invested in a custom tuner and a few other things for it, and it runs like a top, good off the line speed and I now get around 18 mpgs, highway of course, and that's if I don't step on it all the time and if I use cruise control, but man that's hard to do cause it's just so damn fun to drive.
Well good luck cho.
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I have had a minor ticking ad idle. but 2 weeks ago it started to miss like i had happen when i had fuel injector problems. Had to have 3 injectors on back 1 replaced. when it started to miss i took it stright to one of the local parts store they put code reader on it found three codes #1 cylinder plug , oxy senser, and one i cant remember. took to local ford dealer that who said it had a problem with the phazers due to what they say is a sludge probelm
Unfortunately I don't trust dealerships, which is why I try to do whatever needs to be done to the truck myself. I have the satisfaction of knowing it's getting done and done right and it saves money on labor too, besides the fact that I can't afford what the stealerships charge you today.
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