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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:15 AM
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I have a 02 7.3L and everytime it rains it jerks going down the road or if I'm sitting it will cut off and crNk by up with no problem. Could this be the cps. I don't know much about this sensor. I've replaced it 3 times but it's never acted like this
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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Moved to the 1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel forum.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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it is the rain leaking around the windshield, there is a box under the dash that is getting wet, i can t remember the name but others will .
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Awesome. If anybody knows the name of it please inform me. Thanks alot. Why would it make it jerk and cut off for
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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The ECU? I would also do a wiggle test on the CPS harness.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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What is that and how do I do it
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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CPS harness is the plug you unplugged and plugged back in when you changed the CPS. I can't remember if you can get your hand to it with the truck running or not. You want to be able to wiggle that plug around with the truck running. Please don't hurt yourself. If you can make the truck die by wiggling, you'll have to order a new pigtail and solder it in. I went through 3 ICP sensors before I figured out it was the plug and not the sensors themselves.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:05 AM
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Ok thanks gonna try that. Will let you know soon
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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Since it's doing it in the rain, you should know that sometimes the windshield-wiper motor electrical "noise" gets the PCM confused with the pulses from the CPS, and it loses it's place calculating the proper injector firing. It shuts down for safety (wouldn't want a shot of fuel injected at the wrong time), but will "find itself" and continue on.

Sometimes replacing the CPS will cure the problem, sometimes putting electrical noise filters on the windshield motor will do the job.

Does it do the same thing in "low-speed wipers" as "high-speed wipers"? There are two separate motor power inputs. If it acts differently in one speed than the other, you may have found the cause of the engine problem.

It's a place to begin to look........

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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I'll try the wipers never thought about that.
 
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Since it's doing it in the rain, you should know that sometimes the windshield-wiper motor gets the PCM confused with the pulses from the CPS, and it loses it's place calculating the proper injector firing. It shuts down for safety (wouldn't want a shot of fuel injected at the wrong time), but will "find itself" and continue on.

Sometimes replacing the CPS will cure the problem, sometimes putting electrical noise filters on the windshield motor will do the job.

Does it do the same thing in "low-speed wipers" as "high-speed wipers"? There are two separate motor power inputs. If it acts differently in one speed than the other, you may have found the cause of the engine problem.

It's a place to begin to look........

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i did not know about the wipers. i was thinking water leak.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:12 AM
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i did not know about the wipers. i was thinking water leak.
It still could be a water leak, but I'm only suggesting another thing to help find the real cause.

Since it's so easy to check, and he's replaced three CPS, it couldn't hurt to see.

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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Since it's doing it in the rain, you should know that sometimes the windshield-wiper motor electrical "noise" gets the PCM confused with the pulses from the CPS, and it loses it's place calculating the proper injector firing. It shuts down for safety (wouldn't want a shot of fuel injected at the wrong time), but will "find itself" and continue on.

Sometimes replacing the CPS will cure the problem, sometimes putting electrical noise filters on the windshield motor will do the job.

Does it do the same thing in "low-speed wipers" as "high-speed wipers"? There are two separate motor power inputs. If it acts differently in one speed than the other, you may have found the cause of the engine problem.

It's a place to begin to look........

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And THAT, my friends, is the value of FTE! I've owned my PSD since new (11 years), been reading non-stop on forums since then...and I've NEVER heard of this issue. Unbelievable. You learn something new every day.
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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I've had the exact same thing happen twice in the last 4 years during the rainy season... changed CPS and problem solved
 
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by snakedoc
it is the rain leaking around the windshield, there is a box under the dash that is getting wet, i can t remember the name but others will .
The box is the GEM. His '02 doesn't have a GEM though.

Most likely the CPS as it is a pretty common problem. I would try cleaning it with an electrical contact cleaner. Then reconnect and spray the outside with a silicone spray to keep the water out. It could just be the connector is getting water in it.

It could also be a short in the wire harness on the engine. Many times a short will trigger similar issues you describe.
 
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