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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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Bad booster??

Ok so my son and I performed a disc brake upgrade on his 67 f100. We gathered a brake booster and proportional valve from a 77 and the spindle and brake assembly from a 74. I have done the same conversion on my 65 with no problem.
When we hook his booster up to the manifold vacuum the pedal stays down after being pushed and brakes stay locked. If you lift on the pedal they release. We disconnect the vacuum and the brakes work but you have to press hard that is to be expected but they release when you let up.

Brake booster or what??

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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:14 PM
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Sounds like it. A vacuum brake booster normally has vacuum on both sides. As you press the pedal, it vents vacuum on the firewall side, increasing your force. When you release the pedal, it closes the vent valve and allows vacuum back into the firewall side of the chamber. If this does not happen, then the brake pedal stays down with whatever force the booster was adding.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Thanks.

Originally Posted by Ford_Six
Sounds like it. A vacuum brake booster normally has vacuum on both sides. As you press the pedal, it vents vacuum on the firewall side, increasing your force. When you release the pedal, it closes the vent valve and allows vacuum back into the firewall side of the chamber. If this does not happen, then the brake pedal stays down with whatever force the booster was adding.
Thanks for the information we will give the replacement a shot.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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Even without the booster the discs are a heck of a lot better than the drums were.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Ok son you need to post a picture of your ride..
 
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So we replaced the booster and master cyl.
Brakes work great.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSmirkster
Even without the booster the discs are a heck of a lot better than the drums were.
In some ways, yes. In many ways, no. Drums are far superior at stopping without boost. They are self-energizing. My 69 F250 stopped quite well with giant manual drums.
Disks are better than drums in enough ways that having to add boost doesn't matter:
More fade resistance
more even application (less pulling)
Brakes recover from being wet sooner
Less weight
Overall disks are better, but without boost they can be a bit harder to apply.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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I guess I could have clarified. It's actually my truck that was having the issues, and my drums were in horrible shape before the swap. Major leaking, and it took at least one pump just to pressurize the system before I could get pressure to the drums.

I was just saying that having the discs on their with the bad booster was a hell of a lot better than the ****ty leaking drums I had before

But all in all, there is an insane difference between discs with and without the booster! And I would not recommend disks without the booster unless your drums are completely shot and you have the disc brake parts ready to go.
 
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