great! Let me/us know more on how it does in different situations on the stock tuning please!

 

There is quite a bit of lag. I wouldn't want to run stock tuning all the time with it. I just installed it to hold me over until I got the headstuds installed and can put the SCT on.

 

If you get mild programming, but programming to compensate for your turbo, you can run the SCT without having to worry about studs being in there just yet.

Too many people are afraid to run a tuner without studs on these trucks. If you get the wrong device or put to aggressive tuning on there then yes that could lead to issues, but not in of itself of just having the SCT on there.

 

While I don't disagree w/ you in principal Evan, don't you think that in actuality the tuner will put you closer to the point at which the bolts begin stretching? After all, many people have had issues with no tuner.

More than likely if everything on your engine is working properly (no biased sensors, turbo not sticking, no EGR cooler leaks, etc.), then you are probably spot-on. However, if you are tuned and you develop an issue w/ boost or whatever, I would think that you would have an increased risk of head gsakets beginning to leak - JMHO.

 

It depends on how it's making it's power. If it's making it's power the quick and easy way then yes I would agree that a tuner would put you closer to disaster.

Although, think about how many people got these trucks and really didn't work them or understand all that one has to do with these trucks, not idling too long (which went against all diesel thinking when the 6.0 came out at least at this level of diesel thinking) without a high idle circuit, all the stop and go trips to the grocery store. How many of those that had stock headbolt issues were due to a little of the owner ignorance? And if they don't know how to treat their truck in stock form, I can promise you they don't know how to treat their truck in modified form.

Here is the twister though. Those that had issues with a tuner. How do you know that there wasn't an issue with the truck to begin with and the tuner just brought it quicker to the forefront? Was that really the tuner devices fault?

True, however, you can develop boot issues with or without being tuned. Let's say you put a tuner on there and you are used to letting it idle for long periods of time. Eventually you will develop a boost issue. Enough of that and you'll cause those bolts to go. You can have that issue rather you tuned it or not.

Now on the flip side of that, you could have people writing programs that things are out of whack. That is true. That's why I only suggest custom tunes and tunes from reputable people. Off the shelf tuning just doesn't have the ability to tweak for the individual truck or truck owner's needs.

 

lol soo... I see my trucks getting torn apart by fellow FTE'rs lmao. So in my defenese, she dont lag like that any more. The lag is bearly noticleable (its as bad as stock turbo lag now) and i am still running stock tunes. The reason why she was laging so bad was because i placed the turbo on the pedestual (sp?) wrong. So the up pipe wasnt hooking up right with the turbo. Long story short, it almost killed me a couple times because the exhaust leak got worse, my lag got worse and diesel fumes where really coming into my cab bad when ever the a/c or heat was on. With that said, i fixed it yest. Truck runs great, and i wanna pull that hill again mike!

 

That can really cause for a bad day power wise that's for sure. You have to be careful when messing with the up pipes when doing stuff like that. They can be pretty fragile.

 

Ya i red that the up pipes can crack very easily. Im super glad i didnt crack them. But when i put the turbo on, i tryed not to wrestle with the up pipes to much. Dont need another issue on my hand haha. But just glad shes runnin good but even happier that i dont have exhaust fumes in my cab. Having a up pipe that isnt fully connected to the turbo makes perfect sense as to why i only pulled that hill at our meet at like 5 or so mph.

 

Been there when I got my 64mm non-vgt turbo put on there. I was hauling about 10k worth of trees about 90 miles one way and there is one spot on the interstate that has a trucker's lane and I had a crack in my up-pipe and I was doing about 40 with 1225°F on the pyro, black smoke everywhere. Not even the truckers were happy about my slow pace.

 

Sounds like my story, except i wasnt sooting every where haha

 

Well that makes more sense Matt. Your truck couldn't seem to build any boost.

 

Mine was building boost, it just wasn't a lot and it wasn't clearing it out.

 

Mine was boosting to. Just had a very hard time at low rpms

 

I get access to the lift on friday. Any special tools i need to gather up before i start? Im lifting the cab